Spiral launches attack on Aisleyne

[secrethousemate]

premierscfc said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6-WPH_Vy60

Spiral getting harrassed in Ireland. They even tease him about Aisleyne.

I wouldn't be surprised if this vid re-surfaced on his Myspace page, minus sound, and with a new caption: "Exclusive footage of Spiral being chased by his adoring fans"

[premierscfc]

He was on Irish TV getting ripped to shreds by 2 puppets. It will probably end up on Youtube. There is a thread over on DS.

[premierscfc]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5VTx8dMWY

The link to youtube.

[rudyrudyrudy]

and it is so funny i hope somehow aisleyne gets to see it...

[julian]

I was wary of Spiral from the first day, I think. He asked a rather too personal question of Michael who took offense. Spiral then got really annoyed with him for taking offense

Then later he and Michael argued over the way Spiral was ruining the fruit and, again, Spiral seemed to be overly aggressive about Michael's attitude.

His argument with Jenni was completely uncalled for too.

I think Spiral has a bad temper and a mysoginistic attitude towards women. He is very passionate and lets that passion get the better of him.

Having said that, his issue with Aisleyne wasn't just that she rejected his advances. From his point of view she was giving out mixed signals. She was definitely flirty with him which was probably not a good idea if she wasn't going to follow through.

The spin the bottle incident would have been humiliating for most guys. Not in itself because Aisleyne wouldn't kiss him but because she then went on to snog Pete and Nikki with no reservations at all. That has to look like a deliberate snub in anyone's book.

Finally, she ended up nominating him despite his attempts to be supportive and comforting.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think there were very good reasons for Aisleyne's behaviour but, of course, Spiral wouldn't let her explain those reasons.

He's immature and judgemental and I have no respect for him at all but I can understand his grievance. It's not just a case of not knowing how to take no for an answer.

Regards

Julian

[goonkad]

julian said:

I was wary of Spiral from the first day, I think. He asked a rather too personal question of Michael who took offense. Spiral then got really annoyed with him for taking offense

Then later he and Michael argued over the way Spiral was ruining the fruit and, again, Spiral seemed to be overly aggressive about Michael's attitude.

His argument with Jenni was completely uncalled for too.

I think Spiral has a bad temper and a mysoginistic attitude towards women. He is very passionate and lets that passion get the better of him.

Having said that, his issue with Aisleyne wasn't just that she rejected his advances. From his point of view she was giving out mixed signals. She was definitely flirty with him which was probably not a good idea if she wasn't going to follow through.

The spin the bottle incident would have been humiliating for most guys. Not in itself because Aisleyne wouldn't kiss him but because she then went on to snog Pete and Nikki with no reservations at all. That has to look like a deliberate snub in anyone's book.

Finally, she ended up nominating him despite his attempts to be supportive and comforting.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think there were very good reasons for Aisleyne's behaviour but, of course, Spiral wouldn't let her explain those reasons.

He's immature and judgemental and I have no respect for him at all but I can understand his grievance. It's not just a case of not knowing how to take no for an answer.

Regards

Julian

Sorry but I have to disagree slightly about the fact that he was getting mixed signals in the
beginning she was flirty with him granted but he knew where he stood with her, for example the night of spin the bottle he went into the diary room and stated that he knew he had no chance with Ash and there was no chance of anything happening, yet he still got upset
His reaction after she
didn't snog him during spin the bottle
was just ridicolous because she didn't refuse to KISS him she refused to SNOG him, she did exactly the same thing with Glyn and he didn't have a hissy fit. At the end of the day I believe that the top and the bottom of the argument is that Spirals upset because she wanted friendship with him but nothing more and the altering of the lyrics of his song two moths after the shows ended without Ash even mentioning him in any publication(bar Choice fM) shows him up to be bitter, nasty and slightly obssessive IMHO.

[suziq]

It says a lot more about Spiral than it does Ais!

[julian]

goonkad said:

Sorry but I have to disagree slightly about the fact that he was getting mixed signals in the beginning she was flirty with him granted but he knew where he stood with her, for example the night of spin the bottle he went into the diary room and stated that he knew he had no chance with Ash and there was no chance of anything happening, yet he still got upset
His reaction after she
didn't snog him during spin the bottle
was just ridicolous because she didn't refuse to KISS him she refused to SNOG him, she did exactly the same thing with Glyn and he didn't have a hissy fit. At the end of the day I believe that the top and the bottom of the argument is that Spirals upset because she wanted friendship with him but nothing more and the altering of the lyrics of his song two moths after the shows ended without Ash even mentioning him in any publication(bar Choice fM) shows him up to be bitter, nasty and slightly obssessive IMHO.

I don't think that Aisleyne was sending mixed signals but I do think that Spiral was interpreting them as such. His rant over the curry incident said as much.

From his point of view, Aisleyne was saying she wasn't interested one minute and then being sexy towards him the next. Of course I get the feeling that all Aisleyne had to do was smile at him and he thought it was a come on

It was fair enough that Aisleyne refused to snog him during spin the bottle and I think it was almost certainly down to the fact that she realized he wanted to take the relationship further than she was comfortable with and was trying to cool things down (this was the day after the 'under the duvet' incident). However, she then went on to passionately snog both Pete and Nikki which would have made most people feel snubbed.

Essentially, Spiral feels as if Aisleyne was using him. Pretending to care about him one minute and nominating him the next. The fact that he liked her so much in the first place makes him feel all the more betrayed.

Obviously I believe he's wrong and I think it's very shallow of him to have even got that impression in the first place but I don't believe that his grievance is about being rejected it's about, as far as he sees it, being used and betrayed.

It's sad really

Regards

Julian

[juliejuliejulie]

It was more or less jennie who wanted to nominate Spiral, not Aisleyne, she just went along with what Jennie said. They were both upset at nominating him, but spiral never saw that part on eviction night, just when Aisleyne said Spiral making her the bad guy.....

[remaha]

premierscfc said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5VTx8dMWY

The link to youtube.

Thanks for the Podge & Rodge link premierscfc

I thought Spiral took all the jokes in fairly good stead to be honest. He obviously knew what he was letting himself in for and I suppose it's not quite so bad when you know they are going to take the pee mercilessly. They do the same to all their guests as far as I can tell. So it's not as if Spiral was being singled out.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm no apologist for Spiral. Aisleyne did right to steer clear of him because there was something very creepy about him.

I'd say he was infatuated with Aisleyne and simply unable to cope with public rejection. It's possible that he'd have left her alone if she'd just snogged him for a second or two on the spin the bottle night. However, Aisleyne couldn't afford to take that risk. He'd already shown himself to be a pest and might have got even worse.

Personally I think that's what would have happened. I seem to remember that every time he tried it on subsequently, Aisleyne had had a few to drink. Not forgetting the fact that Spiral doesn't drink, I can't help wondering whether that might the only way he can score with women.

So, in so far as Aisleyne contributed to his humiliation on national TV, I think she may have done womankind a great service. The fact is though that it was Spiral who humiliated himself on national TV throughout.