The Pentagon

[battybetty]

hotscotch said:

odm - you might be interested in this. warning it's 1 and a half hours long


video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

OMG Im only 30 mins into watching this and already I think Im in danger of becoming a serious believer in the conspiracy. I've always been painfully aware of the bullcrap spin that forms a major part of the propaganda thrown out by the political world. Grrrr it reminds me exactly why I detest politics and politicians so much.

My jaw dropped three times already with some of the information given on this tape. Im almost afraid to watch any further...but I will. Fascinating...and horrifying.

[Admin]

I can tell you that the twin towers imploded due to the high temperatures of the aviation fuel. I was told this by my very good friend a retired fire chief with the Northern Ireland fire brigade who had much experience in explosions and effects on buildings.

[Admin]

remaha said:

The only credible explanation I can come up with to support the conspiracy theorists is that the Boing was blown up in mid-air by a missile and that a second missile that may have been launched, having no target any more, crashed into the Pentagon.

The problem is that this is even less credible than the official US government line. To me, the evidence on this tape appears to be the product of someone with a very fertile imagination and an inherrent lack of trust in the US government. I don't think government's are clever enough to be able to cover up things like this. If it was true, there would be better evidence by now.

I remember watching and two planes where seen, the news reports however only mentioned the boeing after that. A stike force had been scrambled, I remember asking my friend at the time where the second plane had gone? Had it been shot down?

[odm]

thanks for the link hotscotch. I will get to watch it and come back to comment...

[Angie]

just finished watching it and am still a bit gobsmacked at what I have seen. Everything he said on there made sense so now I don't know who to believe, although at the moment I am enclined to go with the opinions in the film. Going to watch it again tomorrow and then try and find one with governments version and make my mind up from there I think.

[slowie34]

I would recommend that everyone watches at least Loose Change, there are other DVDs out there too, but they all come to the same conclusion.

As for the buildings collapsing because of the high temperatures of plane fuel burning. The plane fuel burns for seconds then it is gone, besides it also burned a considerably lower temperature than would be needed to melt steel. The fires left were small and dotted around but 3 towers collapsed within 2 hours. Never in history has a steel framed building collapsed due to fire. Not even the one in Paris that burned furiously over many floors for 24 hours. Nor the Empires state building that once burned furiously over many floors for 18 hours. Yet on 9/11 3 towers came down is less that two hours, and TC7 wasnt even hit. It is also important to understand that WTC7 was built to withstand a direct hit from a plane, and the steel reinforcment in this building was huge, much more than it would ever need.

All I can say is, please watch Loose Change before you make up your minds.

[6alives]

I watched loose change last night thanks to the link above and I was quite taken aback!! George W. Bush always had war on his mind and making personal money for all the "guys" I believe that it was a "own goal" so to speak and both this and Farenheit 9/11 have shown us how and why. The American Gov probably did the "math" and worked out the ratio between compensation payouts to the amount of money to be made thro the ways pointed out in loose change. Also ther were relatively very few people in the twin towers due to the timing of the attacks and that is also a clue as if it were really a terrorist attack surely they would have done it later in the day when the buildings would have been full with all employees at their desks. The collapse of the towers was the most horrific sight that day and to be shown in this film how it was a controlled explosion is mindboggling! They had to destroy all the evidence as quickly as possible and to think that they thought nothing of "killing" the rescue firemen/women and ambulancemen/women HEROES is probably the most shocking of all. The fact that all the BIn Laden family were flown out of America that day is totally shocking and also that Farenheit 9/11 was OUT before that imbacile was reelected shows how gullible and blinkeringly patriotic the Americans are!!!

[slowie34]

6 alives, absolutely right. I also believe that at least some of the motive was about the american dollar. Once upon a time gold could only be traded in dollars which meant the rest of the world had to trade in dollars whether they liked it or not. Even when the dollar was weak. Eventually the rest of the world pulled out, because it was crippling. This would have destroyed the US Economy. However they had oil to fall back on. At the moment oil can only be traded in dollars. Apparently Iraq were planning to get rid of the dollor and trade in euros and Iran were set to do it around now. Iraq were invaded before this could happen, guess who's on the hit list next. Iran. It is all about keeping the US in control.

[Harvestgoddess]

Would they really kill all those people for money
I admit not alot of this makes sense but im having trouble beliving that the american goverment would do such a dispicable act to its own people but at the same time there are so many questions that havent been answered or explained

[Angie]

It's not only the lives taken in the U.S that have angered me but the subsequent needless deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan and over here. 7/7 is a direct result of what they have done not to mention all the other suicide bombings all over the world. Bush makes Hussein and Bin Laden look likes girl thingy cats if this is true. This amn is evi incarnate and it is very frightening to think of the power this lunatic holds.