Ais Fans.

[Cloud 9]

I think maybe how events turned out in the house in relation to Ais had a lot to do with it...but have you noticed that Ais fans tend to share similar views on the other housemates as well? Eg I'd say the majority of Ais fans tended to like Imogen and Susy and disliked Nikky and Grace. I think opinions on Pete vary (the less I say about him the better ).

So just for the sake of contraversy ..I was wondering if there was any big differences you noticed between an opinion you had on another housemate compared to how the majority of your fellow Ais fans viewed that housemate. Eg a housemate mostly disliked by Ais fans that you liked? Or maybe a housemate mostly liked by Ais fans who you couldn't stand?

For me, I think I'd differ with the majority of Ais fans in my opinion of Mikey. I wasn't a fan, in fact I was pretty neutral about him - but I certainly didn't detest him the way a lot did and I think he got a bit of a raw deal. He was prone to be arguementative and his association with Grace did him no favours. But I think he was quite a genuine person, honest and upfront, always up for the tasks and up for a laugh as well. And he did have a caring side that he showed with Pete and a few other housemates - Glyn for example when he was drunk. I didn't see him as that good, but not that awful either.

I'm wondering if any of you felt differently about a housemate compared to the majority of your fellow Ais fans?

And I wonder what it will be like when the the next BB comes around! Do you think we'll all end up favouring the same person? Or will the debates around here start to get really heated if we all disagree with each other?


Only kidding! We're all too sensible for that I'm sure - but it will be interesting to see if opinions will be similar or very different with the next BB, don't you think?

[kowalski]

Well I suppose my opinions of them are colored by how they treated ash, so with mikey I started off liking him then when he called ash a f*cking b*tch I detested him and it took a long time before I liked him again, then he went and ruined himself forever by slagging her off in the HND .

With Jen I know she made a fool of herself in the final week by turning on ash, but I did like jen and I thought she really tried to be a good friend to ash a lot of the time .

I think there are some ash fans that also like nikki but I found her loathsome even before ash arrived and my opinion has gone down since then!

Some like Dicky but I find his 2-faced bullying and patronising behaviour really annoying .

pete I can't decide, I liked him a lot of the time but he nommed ash nearly 3 times!! and his behaviour in the final week was pathetic.

maybe I'm not answering this very well.

[karenab]

Interesting!
I didnt watch from the start, so maybe I have a different view to other people. I only saw from when Ais was in the HND.
I turned it on out of curiosity in the first couple of weeks, and heard this awful screechy put-on voice coming out of the mouth of this scrawny blonde girl, and knew I wouldnt be able to stand it, so turned the channel literally after 30 seconds. I had another go after a few weeks, when I was SURE she'd be gone
Nah - NIKKI was still there, and I still couldnt stand anything about her.
LEA- just weird. Like she should be in a sideshow. I thought she was miserable.
MIKEY - loved himself, but ok. I think he was pretty genuine in a dull way.
GLYN - sometimes I loved him - his exuberance, his 'innocence'. But sometimes I thought he wasnt half as innocent as he appeared-a bit too knowing, if that makes sense. A little too fond of watching himself singing in the mirror.
SUSIE - bless, whats not to like! A bit of a contradiction. Tried desperately to get on the show, but then didnt want to do anything. SO attractive, well spoken, but with THOSE boobs - weird! But kind.
IMOGEN-sweet, a bit dull. Clearly after Mikey, and shes meant to be friends with Grace?! Very pretty. Loved her when she didnt join in the bi@tch-fest in the HND.
RICHARD- liked his wit, his caring side. Didnt like him when he really went for Micheal, and went RIGHT off him in HND and after- what a louse!
MICHAEL-creepy! A little too carried away with the jailer thing! But nice that he was able to see what Richard had been going through,when he heard his letter from home. But still something creepy.
SPIRAL- all he was worried about all the time, was how he was being perceived on TV. An idiot, mysogynist (?) bully.
JENNY- I actually think she was playing a part. Kind of tart with a heart, but I dont mean tart - tomboy, everyones friend, no-ones threat but keen to stand up for herself and pick a row to show she wasnt a pushover.
JANE-couldnt STAND her! Still think there was something funny going on there - how the hell did she get away with so much?!? Uncouth and unfunny.
PETE-couldnt see the attraction. I honestly believe (and I hope I dont offend anyone) that the only reason he was popular was because of his Tourettes. I didnt see him do or say anything interesting, ever. He was so plainly playing the biggest game, I cant believe people couldnt see it. But he played a blinder! He played all the girls off against each other, whilst managing to endear himself to ALL of them. The only time he came alive was in the DR, which ensured he was never nominated (was he?).
He hopped on that fence and stayed there out of harms way. I thought people MUST see through him in the final week, when his game went into overdrive - romance (yeah, right!!), god, entertaining 'drunken' behaviour, and a bit of Nikkiesque screaming and tantrums during his private disco.

Well, thats what I thought! Our girl should have won, no question!

[Cloud 9]

karenab said:

Interesting!
I didnt watch from the start, so maybe I have a different view to other people. I only saw from when Ais was in the HND.
I turned it on out of curiosity in the first couple of weeks, and heard this awful screechy put-on voice coming out of the mouth of this scrawny blonde girl, and knew I wouldnt be able to stand it, so turned the channel literally after 30 seconds. I had another go after a few weeks, when I was SURE she'd be gone
Nah - NIKKI was still there, and I still couldnt stand anything about her.
LEA- just weird. Like she should be in a sideshow. I thought she was miserable.
MIKEY - loved himself, but ok. I think he was pretty genuine in a dull way.
GLYN - sometimes I loved him - his exuberance, his 'innocence'. But sometimes I thought he wasnt half as innocent as he appeared-a bit too knowing, if that makes sense. A little too fond of watching himself singing in the mirror.
SUSIE - bless, whats not to like! A bit of a contradiction. Tried desperately to get on the show, but then didnt want to do anything. SO attractive, well spoken, but with THOSE boobs - weird! But kind.
IMOGEN-sweet, a bit dull. Clearly after Mikey, and shes meant to be friends with Grace?! Very pretty. Loved her when she didnt join in the bi@tch-fest in the HND.
RICHARD- liked his wit, his caring side. Didnt like him when he really went for Micheal, and went RIGHT off him in HND and after- what a louse!
MICHAEL-creepy! A little too carried away with the jailer thing! But nice that he was able to see what Richard had been going through,when he heard his letter from home. But still something creepy.
SPIRAL- all he was worried about all the time, was how he was being perceived on TV. An idiot, mysogynist (?) bully.
JENNY- I actually think she was playing a part. Kind of tart with a heart, but I dont mean tart - tomboy, everyones friend, no-ones threat but keen to stand up for herself and pick a row to show she wasnt a pushover.
JANE-couldnt STAND her! Still think there was something funny going on there - how the hell did she get away with so much?!? Uncouth and unfunny.
PETE-couldnt see the attraction. I honestly believe (and I hope I dont offend anyone) that the only reason he was popular was because of his Tourettes. I didnt see him do or say anything interesting, ever. He was so plainly playing the biggest game, I cant believe people couldnt see it. But he played a blinder! He played all the girls off against each other, whilst managing to endear himself to ALL of them. The only time he came alive was in the DR, which ensured he was never nominated (was he?).
He hopped on that fence and stayed there out of harms way. I thought people MUST see through him in the final week, when his game went into overdrive - romance (yeah, right!!), god, entertaining 'drunken' behaviour, and a bit of Nikkiesque screaming and tantrums during his private disco.

Well, thats what I thought! Our girl should have won, no question!

Hi karenab

I agree with practically all of that.

I found Susy a bit too boring - in the sense she was there for a reason as she stated - and as a result didn't really get involved or seem interested in the house experience itself as much as I think she should have - it seemed obvious she was just biding her time until it finished and she could make her money. But I quite liked her.

I liked Michael - he was sensitive aobut the gay thing, but had Richard not been there to push his buttons I don't think you'd have seen him react like he did. He was a bit over-the-top at times, but something tells me he wouldn't be as hyper in real life. Nice guy - and I liked his astuteness - in recognising Pete was a player - and in recognising Aiss qualities. Liked the way he showed his loyalty to Ais as well when they were on the show trying to get back in the house.

I agree totally with your opinion on Pete

[Cloud 9]

kowalski said:

Well I suppose my opinions of them are colored by how they treated ash, so with mikey I started off liking him then when he called ash a f*cking b*tch I detested him and it took a long time before I liked him again, then he went and ruined himself forever by slagging her off in the HND .

With Jen I know she made a fool of herself in the final week by turning on ash, but I did like jen and I thought she really tried to be a good friend to ash a lot of the time .

I think there are some ash fans that also like nikki but I found her loathsome even before ash arrived and my opinion has gone down since then!

Some like Dicky but I find his 2-faced bullying and patronising behaviour really annoying .

pete I can't decide, I liked him a lot of the time but he nommed ash nearly 3 times!! and his behaviour in the final week was pathetic.

maybe I'm not answering this very well.

You're answering very well

I was just inetrested in our opinions aside from Ais - and how they might differ

[kowalski]

Michael was great.
At first I thought he was an idiot, but believe me he got a bad edit, the worst of anyone.

I watched LF and he didn't take it seriously, he was not impressed with pete, and he was really good for ash, at first I couldn't understand why ash liked him so much, but he was really good at seeing things objectively for her and making her realise that it is just a game show .

[Harvestgoddess]

;D Hello cloud 9
Well i liked susie alot she made me laugh with her demented cleaning and that time she said she would ask for a dna test of some kind to find out who was leaving chewing gum around the house that was hillarious allthough i was put off slightly by her interview in which she made it clear that she just wanted fame mind they all did so she was at least being honest but she was loyal to aisleyne and ive no doubt she was actualy voting in the final for her
Nikki funny at first but got old fast and her treatment of aisleyne the blatant lies that week (with jayne) infuriated me i was hurling things at my tv and i can remember that one night with jane not being able to sleep i was so angry
I liked mikey at first too thought he was nice nice looking and fun guy but went off him that week he rowed with everyone and even more in the hnd and now he is graces lapdog its gone downhill further although to be fair he has impressed me with his treatment of grace he must put up with alot being with her and also lost his popularity because of her in think he has been v loyal and caring towards her shame he has such lousy taste
Lea liked her but she drove me nuts that week with ais , and ais only said what i myself was screaming at my tv everynight lea did manipulate the house and even pete knew it she wasnt so bad in the end though and did on bblb back aisleyne after the hnd so thats something
Jennie sorry guys she just was never my cup of tea never warmed to her ever and actually really disliked her in the end.
Glyn The same as jennie never warmed to him he irritated me and i thought he was acting daft for votes i think he was more selfaware than people give him credit for and allthough i dont hate him i dislike him
Pete The biggest player of them all never really warmed to him he was transparent and clearly there to win actually really dislike him for fooling the nation and stealing the crown from the real winner aisleyne
Liked michael bit ott but a caring kind guy i enjoyed him being in the house also the fact he was loyal to aisleyne
Liked spiral at first way he looked after aisleyne but that all went out of the window when he got in to the house what a tosser
Also i think he is a coward he only bullied and threatened the girls as he isnt man enough to stand up to the guys jerk
Richard loved him really made me laugh allthough his treatment of aisleyne and his condesending manner towards her angered me i know he let alot of his fans down too in the hnd and really lost my respect too i wish him well though .
Looks up at the tower of words opps sorry got carried away
I should say quickly that at first i wasnt a fan of aisleynes but she won be over quickly with her defence of susie and way she stood up to people but i wont say anymore or i may nerver stop praising her

[karenab]

Agree, Susie was too boring as a BB contestant, but as a person she was really nice, I thought. I couldnt believe the people saying they hated her - how can you hate Susie?!?!

Michael- agree, he was astute. And he was good for and to Ais. Maybe its just a personal thing, cos I cant really put my finger on why I didnt warm to him. For one thing, as I'm typing this, I'm remembering I thought he always looked a bit grubby. And thats something thats just a no-no for me!

And, later last night I was thinking - so many times, things that Glyn and Jen did, I would put it down to their age and excuse them. Which doesnt really give an even playing field, if you know what I mean. Who else wanted to go down there and slap Jen sideways when she was making all the fuss about Ais saying she thought Jen fancied Pete - if my boyfriends not there cos of her, I'm going to get her!??! Jenny dear, if he is any kind of a boyfriend he will have been watching the show. Yes- watching you throwing yourself at Pete like a lovesick puppy. He really didnt need Ais to vocalise that for him!!!


Nikki - I didnt really say why I dont like Nikki, so just show you know its not just the Nikki v Ais thing:
I didnt like her voice, the screeching, the over e-nun-cee-a-tion, and the falseness of it, like she was trying to sound posh (and failing miserably). I didnt like the way she kind of tilted her head up to appear haughty and above people, and the way she said she was middle class - who cares, but she's not!
She was lazy. The most self absorbed person I have ever seen - I am still flabbergasted she was insisting the heating was on during some of the hottest days ever- put some clothes on you selfish little madam!
The tantrums and histrionics - I dont find them amusing AT ALL. Maybe, if she had completely lost it ONCE it would be different, but all the time?!?! Her mother should have slapped her more, IMO.
I dont want to see her on my TV because I actually feel very uncomfortable watching someone I really believe is a sandwich short of a picnic. I dont find it entertaining, but I dont enjoy those candid camera type shows where they make people look like fools, full stop.
Her behavior towards lots of HM's, but especially Ais, was unforgiveable. She was two-faced, nasty and just plain viscious. How on earth did Jen and Ais feel, coming out of the house, to headlines all over magazines saying Nikki thought they were both vile. And the way she touted herself round shows and magazines after she was voted off the first time, saying how vile Ais was, and stirring up hatred for her. She gloried in the fact she thought Ais was unpopular and would come out to boos. And I think she really believed SHE would come second. ALMOST ashamed to say, I LMAO when SHE was evicted the second time, to boos!
I think you can tell by her face she is nasty, inside and out.
Apart from that, she was OK

[Harvestgoddess]

;D Hey karen i agree entirely with you on all that yove just put into words the reasons why i find nikki so awfull the girl is beyond help and her mother should be ashamed can you belive her mum was actually on tv constantly praising her behaviour no wonder nikki is so bad , nikki is false full stop it dosent matter what she says it always sounds put on that stupid little girl voice and stupid grins she is like ragan from the exocist and like you i jumped with glee when she was booed at the final plus she looked like she had been dragged through a hedge backwards LMAO she was stunned to find she wasnt that hot afterall

[karenab]

What is wrong with her mother?!!! I am 48, and my mum still wouldnt hesitate to tell me if she thought my behaviour was out of order!!