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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2006 22:00:26 GMT
I have seen posts on DS about this.
I made reference to it in a post to odm some time back. It goes to show that this young woman has been through a lot in her lifetime.
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Post by remaha on Aug 30, 2006 22:28:19 GMT
I've read the Now article a few times now and I'd like to say a few things about it.
First off, the question of payment and the timing of her revelations is irrelevant. Sometimes stories just have to be told. The fact that the story appears in Now magazine is neither here nor there. The fact that Aisleyne has probably been paid handsomely for telling it is neither here nor there. Whether or not it was done with any intention of highlighting any issues involved is neither here nor there. It is a story about Aisleyne, and to a lesser extent, her boyfriend Curtis which Aisleyne chose to share with us.
Some of the world's greatest writers have made their name by writing semi-autobigraphical novels about great hardships and traumas they have suffered and have been paid handsomely for their efforts.
Now magazine is not great literature. But today's edition did contain a great story, one that it is essential to know if you want to know the real Aisleyne.
The story itself both shocked and saddened me in equal measure. However it also reinforced the admiration I have for Aisleyne.
I have also been saddened today by the sight of people trying to twist the story against Aisleyne rather than expressing sympathy for her. My faith in humanity was sorely tested as I watched with deepening disgust some of the reactions and comments on the forums. Not once was I ever tempted to get involved. Surely by doing so we risk sinking to the same depths. Sometimes it is simply not necessary to fight back because your enemies are doing more harm to themselves than to you. Today should have been one of those days. Unfortunately from where I was standing the reactions of some Ash fans looked more like bear-baiting.
One other thing that I''d like to get off my chest is that I was also disappointed to see people being so quick to criticise Aisleyne's mother. We cannot possibly judge her as a human being on the facts that we have available to us. We still do not know the full story and may never know it. I was simply happy to hear that there is a possibility that Aisleyne and her mother might one day be reconciled. After all, she said herself that she would be prepared to give up all chances of fame and fortune to have her mum back in her life.
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Post by robbie on Aug 30, 2006 22:59:21 GMT
I have also been saddened today by the sight of people trying to twist the story against Aisleyne rather than expressing sympathy for her. My faith in humanity was sorely tested as I watched with deepening disgust some of the reactions and comments on the forums. Not once was I ever tempted to get involved. Surely by doing so we risk sinking to the same depths. Sometimes it is simply not necessary to fight back because your enemies are doing more harm to themselves than to you. Today should have been one of those days. Unfortunately from where I was standing the reactions of some Ash fans looked more like bear-baiting. I was on general forum today and I'm not going to apologise for for standing up and replying to some of the most disgustiing rubbish Iv'e ever seen posted. In fact I'm proud to have done so. I'm sorry that was your view.
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Post by Angie on Aug 31, 2006 0:12:59 GMT
The miscarriages for her must been have absolute hell. It is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. I think this goes a long way into explaining why she used to get so upset at the baby crying alarm. If BB knew about these miscarriages and continued to put these alarms on knowing the affect they must be having on her, then they are bigger 'fatherless children' than I thought
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Post by remaha on Aug 31, 2006 7:01:49 GMT
I have also been saddened today by the sight of people trying to twist the story against Aisleyne rather than expressing sympathy for her. My faith in humanity was sorely tested as I watched with deepening disgust some of the reactions and comments on the forums. Not once was I ever tempted to get involved. Surely by doing so we risk sinking to the same depths. Sometimes it is simply not necessary to fight back because your enemies are doing more harm to themselves than to you. Today should have been one of those days. Unfortunately from where I was standing the reactions of some Ash fans looked more like bear-baiting. I was on general forum today and I'm not going to apologise for for standing up and replying to some of the most disgustiing rubbish Iv'e ever seen posted. In fact I'm proud to have done so. I'm sorry that was your view. Robbie, I respect your views and I am sure you defended Aisleyne with honour, but have you never thought that the people you were debating with don't really believe the things they are saying themselves. Their main aim is to wind us up. It's all a game to them. They are not there to engage in rational discussion. As far as I can see, they consider the argument to have been won if they get you so wound up you get banned. They are coldly calculating in the way they argue, pushing all the right buttons to achieve their aims. The subject matter (Aisleyne) is almost irrelevant to them. This is just how they get their kicks. There is no better example of the way their mind works than their reaction to a pro-Ash thread. They immediately think that it has been put up there to wind them up. And this what disappoints me most, because I sometimes think they are right. It is this aspect of the other forums that makes me feel uncomfortable. I guess I am not really cut out for forum life.
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Post by robbie on Aug 31, 2006 11:37:22 GMT
I was on general forum today and I'm not going to apologise for for standing up and replying to some of the most disgustiing rubbish Iv'e ever seen posted. In fact I'm proud to have done so. I'm sorry that was your view. Robbie, I respect your views and I am sure you defended Aisleyne with honour, but have you never thought that the people you were debating with don't really believe the things they are saying themselves. Their main aim is to wind us up. It's all a game to them. They are not there to engage in rational discussion. As far as I can see, they consider the argument to have been won if they get you so wound up you get banned. They are coldly calculating in the way they argue, pushing all the right buttons to achieve their aims. The subject matter (Aisleyne) is almost irrelevant to them. This is just how they get their kicks. There is no better example of the way their mind works than their reaction to a pro-Ash thread. They immediately think that it has been put up there to wind them up. And this what disappoints me most, because I sometimes think they are right. It is this aspect of the other forums that makes me feel uncomfortable. I guess I am not really cut out for forum life. Yes I respect your view too but at the time I couldn't stand back and watch them disrespect a sympathy thread devoted to Aisleyne's sad news. You would think in this one instance they could have shown some respect considering the subject matter. However in the cold light of day I can see your point and I've now decided to stay away from the General forum as it's not worth getting upset over (if i haven't already been banned).
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Post by remaha on Aug 31, 2006 12:07:43 GMT
Robbie, I respect your views and I am sure you defended Aisleyne with honour, but have you never thought that the people you were debating with don't really believe the things they are saying themselves. Their main aim is to wind us up. It's all a game to them. They are not there to engage in rational discussion. As far as I can see, they consider the argument to have been won if they get you so wound up you get banned. They are coldly calculating in the way they argue, pushing all the right buttons to achieve their aims. The subject matter (Aisleyne) is almost irrelevant to them. This is just how they get their kicks. There is no better example of the way their mind works than their reaction to a pro-Ash thread. They immediately think that it has been put up there to wind them up. And this what disappoints me most, because I sometimes think they are right. It is this aspect of the other forums that makes me feel uncomfortable. I guess I am not really cut out for forum life. Yes I respect your view too but at the time I couldn't stand back and watch them disrespect a sympathy thread devoted to Aisleyne's sad news. You would think in this one instance they could have shown some respect considering the subject matter. However in the cold light of day I can see your point and I've now decided to stay away from the General forum as it's not worth getting upset over (if i haven't already been banned). That's cool robbie. Shame about your choice of football team though!!!!
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Post by robbie on Aug 31, 2006 12:49:46 GMT
That's cool robbie. Shame about your choice of football team though!!!!
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Post by adorabora on Aug 31, 2006 12:58:23 GMT
Go on Robbie you knock him one " Theres nowt rang wi the toon" best team gannin. Remaha you need to be careful I know of 3 of us on here that support the TOON.
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Post by adorabora on Aug 31, 2006 14:44:52 GMT
On a serious note. Aisleynes miscarriages... I have only ever used one other forum and that is BBGF, over the past 3 months the vile and spitful hatred towards Aisleyne has been unrelenting, imo these people who do this are cowards hiding behind a computer whose sole pupose in life is to cause unhappiness in others. I was spending time on there and all I saw were things that put my teeth on edge, in the end I found the only way I could cope was... if it was vicious lies and vitriolic name calling report it and I did, if it was posted to get a rise out of Aisleynes fans ...ignore it and let it drop off the page and I did. I class people who can discuss miscarriages in the dreadful way that it was being discussed on the BBGF as people who are sick and need help or are to young to know better.
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