Noisy neighbours on the floor above!

[odm]

Hi SH ooops looks like I could have touched a tender point with younger people. I think it is unfair of me to generalise like that and your quite right to point out that some younger people are actually extremely thoughtful towards their older neighbours. I think my ultimate opinion should just be that noisy neighbours should be evicted after three warnings regardless of age. My feelings are that people should not anyway make the lives of others less worthwhile because of their own living habits. I myself have been housed above older people when I was much much younger and actually they were a pest to me, particularly the old man...I do think perhaps there is often a generation problem for various reasons when people are housed re; the council. You are obviously a very lovely thoughtful person but not everyone is. Anyway, housing will always be a considerable problem. The noise levels could of course be partially eliminated if we were to build houses that were more soundproofed. As that costs more money which councils are very unlikely to spend, several problems will always remain. I think my attitude is just that if people were grouped a little more sympathetically then there would be less of an irritation all around where certain living culture is experienced.

There is a smaller percentage of caring neighbours than most people would realise. Old people can die in their homes and not be missed because people just do not notice. It is not a problem everywhere, but it does exist.

[celticsky]

odm said:

Hi all, actually the story I want to tell is quite sad but at the end of the day it shows that noisy neighbours are really quite a serious problem and should be treated that way too.

A lady I loved very much and was a relative by marriage had lived in the same house for 40 years. Originally her and her husband used to live in a pre-fab but then when the housing situation grew better back in the 50'60's she was offered a lovely 'steel 'house from the council. It was in a lovely road and it was down a bank with a front garden and an enormous back garden. Both her and her husband were very keen gardeners and would grow their annuals and have their strawberry patch as well as their tomatoes and cucumbers in their greenhouse. Together they brought up their boys and saw what must have been a mini lifetime in that house as their children moved out and had their own children... Eventually the husband died and the lady was left on her own..the garden was not so cared for as it was quite large and she was growing a little older. She kept up the strawberries and the sweet peas and even the odd cucumbers and I would have some given to me which always made me smile. I am a great lover of gardens myself so we had this nature thing in common between us. Well eventually as time passed she began to tell me about the NEW neighbours. How they were a young couple and how they would fight and put disco music on from 6 and 7 am in the morning..she could hear the swearing, shouting and doors banging and the threatening behaviour between this couple and the children screaming...eventually, the couple would leave things all over the bank at the front of the house.. then their dog would come over the garden through the conifers and start dumping in this ladys garden. Then the kids would start taking liberties and try to get in. The list of things grew and a few words were spoken. My friend of course ended up getting upset. She was in her seventies and this young couple late twenties with too much booze under their belt and not much interest in the kids...Everytime I saw my friend she would get more and more upset about the people NEXT door. In fact the people next door began to run her life...her whole day was run by them, her whole evening was run by them, and in the end, her entire conversations were only about the people next door.

She was not very well my friend. She had diabetes. I really loved her you know.. I still do, very much. Well in 2004, she died. I still grow sweet peas and I still think of her with so much respect and love. Gardens, her and me, all went together, she was my ex mother in law and I loved her so much. But, I remember sitting with her trying to ease her mind about these dratted people next door. I remember telling her I would ring the council, and she knew I would, but she did,nt give me the permission to do so...so i respected that. Her whole world in her street had changed. It was not full of the people she knew when she moved there. It was full of strangers, as she had grown older, all the people she knew had died, all but one that is. The one friend who was a kindly soul still lives there a few doors away. She has lost her husband now too. She is all alone now. She was one of those people who were capable of moving on and going with the flow with all the new people and couples etc. however, the noisy neighbours destroyed the quality of my ex mother in laws life. It became the focus of her day..and it used to frighten her too as she was sure violence was going to break out with the noisy couple who lived there ignorantly refusing to accept the fact that they were upsetting this lovely older lady.

Do we get mad at stuff like this..did I? was I cross to know that this lady who had lived all these years in her house happily ended up spending the last three in sheer hell of her neighbours and NOTHING WAS DONE?? well yes..i get mad, because I know they still live there creating all that noise and the lady I loved so much has died and probably glad to have that release as she was in the end quite a recluse poor soul.

Noisy Neighbours should be evicted if they are in council houses when they have breached on a third warning. Older people should be respected which they often are not. Older and younger people should not be housed together or as neighbours in my opinion anyway and its time the council sorted that out. There should definately be tighter rules and regulations on Noisy Neighbours. In the case of my ex mother in law, they ruled the last three years of her existance and became her existance which is such a terrible shame....

I really do want to go out in this world and champion peoples rights...its stuff like this that makes me feel like I want to change a few things in this world....

I read this yesterday but didn't have time to reply, but was moved to tears reading it and then was hit by a memory that I've decided to share.
Just over 5 years ago my husband (Gary) was dying from a brain tumour we'd recently moved into my present home to be nearer family, its a nice area but has a number of children on the estate none of whom are terrible. Our neighbours were aware of what was happening in our lives but several events took place in the weeks before Gary died that upset me a lot. One of the problems was the nature of Gary's illness meant he couldn't tolerate noise...and the local kids would run around our front garden and make a fair bit of noise, requests for quiet were ignored. I love gardening found it therapeutic and had planted a peony, Gary had come out of hospital after a few days with constant fitting and we'd missed what was to be our last holiday together and I find the kids are chopped off the heads of my peony that had just flowered, sounds petty but I was really upset.
The worst happened the day Gary died at home, he'd gone into a coma and we were just sitting and waiting for him to die.....the local kids decided it would be fun to run up and down our drive laughing and shouting, Kirstie my eldest daughter went out told them what was happening but they persisted, to the point where they had a metal detector loudly beeping, again running all over our garden and drive, only after Kirstie again went out this time swearing at them did they finally disperse.
It seems to me that really all of these stories that we have told on this thread point to a problem that simply is a lack of respect for others around us, its not always the age of the person involved I've heard of older people behaving badly too and causing neighbour problems and certainly lots of young people show little respect for others.

[odm]

celticsky said:

odm said:

Hi all, actually the story I want to tell is quite sad but at the end of the day it shows that noisy neighbours are really quite a serious problem and should be treated that way too.

A lady I loved very much and was a relative by marriage had lived in the same house for 40 years. Originally her and her husband used to live in a pre-fab but then when the housing situation grew better back in the 50'60's she was offered a lovely 'steel 'house from the council. It was in a lovely road and it was down a bank with a front garden and an enormous back garden. Both her and her husband were very keen gardeners and would grow their annuals and have their strawberry patch as well as their tomatoes and cucumbers in their greenhouse. Together they brought up their boys and saw what must have been a mini lifetime in that house as their children moved out and had their own children... Eventually the husband died and the lady was left on her own..the garden was not so cared for as it was quite large and she was growing a little older. She kept up the strawberries and the sweet peas and even the odd cucumbers and I would have some given to me which always made me smile. I am a great lover of gardens myself so we had this nature thing in common between us. Well eventually as time passed she began to tell me about the NEW neighbours. How they were a young couple and how they would fight and put disco music on from 6 and 7 am in the morning..she could hear the swearing, shouting and doors banging and the threatening behaviour between this couple and the children screaming...eventually, the couple would leave things all over the bank at the front of the house.. then their dog would come over the garden through the conifers and start dumping in this ladys garden. Then the kids would start taking liberties and try to get in. The list of things grew and a few words were spoken. My friend of course ended up getting upset. She was in her seventies and this young couple late twenties with too much booze under their belt and not much interest in the kids...Everytime I saw my friend she would get more and more upset about the people NEXT door. In fact the people next door began to run her life...her whole day was run by them, her whole evening was run by them, and in the end, her entire conversations were only about the people next door.

She was not very well my friend. She had diabetes. I really loved her you know.. I still do, very much. Well in 2004, she died. I still grow sweet peas and I still think of her with so much respect and love. Gardens, her and me, all went together, she was my ex mother in law and I loved her so much. But, I remember sitting with her trying to ease her mind about these dratted people next door. I remember telling her I would ring the council, and she knew I would, but she did,nt give me the permission to do so...so i respected that. Her whole world in her street had changed. It was not full of the people she knew when she moved there. It was full of strangers, as she had grown older, all the people she knew had died, all but one that is. The one friend who was a kindly soul still lives there a few doors away. She has lost her husband now too. She is all alone now. She was one of those people who were capable of moving on and going with the flow with all the new people and couples etc. however, the noisy neighbours destroyed the quality of my ex mother in laws life. It became the focus of her day..and it used to frighten her too as she was sure violence was going to break out with the noisy couple who lived there ignorantly refusing to accept the fact that they were upsetting this lovely older lady.

Do we get mad at stuff like this..did I? was I cross to know that this lady who had lived all these years in her house happily ended up spending the last three in sheer hell of her neighbours and NOTHING WAS DONE?? well yes..i get mad, because I know they still live there creating all that noise and the lady I loved so much has died and probably glad to have that release as she was in the end quite a recluse poor soul.

Noisy Neighbours should be evicted if they are in council houses when they have breached on a third warning. Older people should be respected which they often are not. Older and younger people should not be housed together or as neighbours in my opinion anyway and its time the council sorted that out. There should definately be tighter rules and regulations on Noisy Neighbours. In the case of my ex mother in law, they ruled the last three years of her existance and became her existance which is such a terrible shame....

I really do want to go out in this world and champion peoples rights...its stuff like this that makes me feel like I want to change a few things in this world....

I read this yesterday but didn't have time to reply, but was moved to tears reading it and then was hit by a memory that I've decided to share.
Just over 5 years ago my husband (Gary) was dying from a brain tumour we'd recently moved into my present home to be nearer family, its a nice area but has a number of children on the estate none of whom are terrible. Our neighbours were aware of what was happening in our lives but several events took place in the weeks before Gary died that upset me a lot. One of the problems was the nature of Gary's illness meant he couldn't tolerate noise...and the local kids would run around our front garden and make a fair bit of noise, requests for quiet were ignored. I love gardening found it therapeutic and had planted a peony, Gary had come out of hospital after a few days with constant fitting and we'd missed what was to be our last holiday together and I find the kids are chopped off the heads of my peony that had just flowered, sounds petty but I was really upset.
The worst happened the day Gary died at home, he'd gone into a coma and we were just sitting and waiting for him to die.....the local kids decided it would be fun to run up and down our drive laughing and shouting, Kirstie my eldest daughter went out told them what was happening but they persisted, to the point where they had a metal detector loudly beeping, again running all over our garden and drive, only after Kirstie again went out this time swearing at them did they finally disperse.
It seems to me that really all of these stories that we have told on this thread point to a problem that simply is a lack of respect for others around us, its not always the age of the person involved I've heard of older people behaving badly too and causing neighbour problems and certainly lots of young people show little respect for others.

How could anyone know what you have been through Celticsky? I am deeply sorry. Alas the word Respect is sorely missing from our lives...but even more annoying is the lack of discipline those parents have that allow their children to run riot and make others lives irritating.

I think sometimes emotions are being frozen because this society does not allow us to be natural anymore...

My heart goes out to you CS..I just dont know what else I can say, except you are no doubt a blindingly realistic woman who has more than had her share of knocks this lifetime...bless and hugs x millions.xxx