julian
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Post by julian on Oct 27, 2006 12:21:27 GMT
I am very sorry to Julian who thinks I am being negative obviously, but I am not I am merely pointing out the truth. When Imogen and Sezar were out in the garden with their duvet they had nightly assassination conversations and I recall Imogen being VERY RUDE about Aisleyne. She JUDGED Aisleyne Julian just as you think I am being quick to Judge. However, some of us have a little perception with people and human nature and it was perfectly obvious to me that little miss wales had her NOSE knocked out of joint as she was not the only glamour girl around once ais showed up. Please don't think I'm criticizing you for your views. You are perfectly entitled to view Imogen negatively and I didn't mean to suggest it was a quick judgement, either. I do think that Imogen judged Aisleyne unfairly at first and I agree that she is a fence-sitter and doesn't always speak out in defense of her friends or opinions. That's why I'm posting on an Aisleyne fan site and not an Imogen one I don't think that she felt threatened by Aisleyne when she arrived I think she just joined in the anti-Aisleyne rhetoric because she wanted to stay in with Grace and Sezer. Not that that's necessarily a better reason but I really don't get the impression that she was driven by ego or ambition in any way shape or form. Far from grabbing the limelight, the biggest criticism made by the public against Imogen was her complete lack of dynamism. She just coasted. Content to be in the background. To follow, not to lead. As soon as Grace left she made a bee-line for Aisleyne which suggested to me that the only reason she had kept her distance before was to stay in with the others. It was nothing at all to do with her real feelings towards Aisleyne. If she was really worried about how the outside world perceived her Imogen would never have got close to Aisleyne. It was well known that Aisleyne was hated by the public and anyone who got friendly with Aisleyne risked alienating the public as well so, strategically, it could only have been seen as a really bad move. It seems to me that Imogen was never driven to seek the limelight nor was she interested in making strategically beneficial alliances. She's a path of least resistance person, IMO, she's not very assertive and I get the feeling she's also a poor judge of character. Clearly she's not perfect but, on the whole, I think her heart's in the right place Regards Julian
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Post by odm on Oct 27, 2006 21:51:46 GMT
mmmm...( strokes chin....) Imogen sat on the bed and stuck up for Aisleyne when in the middle of Jayne and Nikki when they were calling Aisleyne things and pulling her down and as mentioned before I said that I felt Imogen was a bit concerned about being involved in what would definately be perceived as a nasty bit of bitchy backstabbing...so Imogen moved away from that situation and spoke in Ais favour by saying she thought she was a nice girl etc.., ,however, the problem I think I had with Imogens credibility as a friend of Ais was when she went into the HND and said nothing...i.e., on the first account she shows that she IS able to speak up for herself and in the second case she shows that she is also capable of saying nothing when it suits her. That has been my problem with Imogen Julian, the mere fact that in these two cases she proves that she does things to suit herself. If she had been such a super friend of Aisleyne she would have spoken up for her not once, but twice, not hang back pretending that its a fly that will go away when the others had their little bitchfest. In a space of very little time Imogen had dropped her allegiance. For me, that is shallow and I guess that will be my opinion of her. She is however a very pretty girl and I think that some people cannot see behind that when judging her. Being a female I am able to see clearly Anyway, I dont wish her garden to be eaten by snails or anything and hope she does ok for herself...but again, I genuinely worry that some forget how auful Aisleyne was treated, Imogen really did have a better sail through BB then Ais and if thats by a...licking as Sam put it, then I would accuse Imogen of getting through it all by those very means as she seemed to just 'agree' ( the polite alternative 'Sam's word'). Someone that agrees all the time is not someone without personality, its someone in my view with great cunning and good strategy and I truly see Imogen as a good player as before mentioned as she sees the dangers of the situation and steps aside and says 'bebe' to project a friendly agreement but really its to stop herself being drawn into things. I think Imogen of them all is the one who will get forgotten first..except for Welsh TV...where they will have to see her like it or not... I moved from Wales about three years ago, its lovely there, but if I lived there now I would never watch the welsh channel out of protest re: Imogen BB7 certainly wound us all up did,nt it!!!
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Post by Harvestgoddess on Oct 28, 2006 15:59:47 GMT
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Post by odm on Oct 28, 2006 17:25:40 GMT
I never knew you had lived in wales ODM i dont watch S4C myself as i dont speak welsh and have no intrest in watching imogen or glyn , PMSL at your comment i wouldnt wish her garden to be eaten by snails oh yes ;D
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