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Post by premierscfc on Sept 19, 2006 15:31:25 GMT
I have been given a set of DVDs containing all the highlights shows along with all the sister shows. I have just watched some of the early ones from when Aisleyne came into the house to when Susie entered the house and it is amazing how different you see things when you know how things turn out.
Lea really is a nasty piece of work, I did not realise this at the time but only saw this later. She is already manipulating situations regarding Pete. Grace and Lisa are as nasty as I remember them without being as clever as Lea about it. Sam is also a piece of work as well which I did not see at the time but can see this time, not the nice gullible person she came across as. Imogen is already beginning to distance herself from Grace and Nikki is just annoying.
You do see things you missed first time now that you know how things turned out.
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Post by Charlie! on Sept 19, 2006 18:21:01 GMT
yea i noticed that too when i recently bought all the episodes and sister shows off ebay - you defo notice things you didn't before particularly regarding Lea and Nikki and their manipulating, You can also see that from maybe Ashs second day in the house Imogen seems to be spending time with Ash and less and less time with Grace. You also notice other nice little moments, such as spontanious hugs that Jennie and Ash would share out of nowhere when they were really close beofre the last couple of weeks when Jennie seemed to turn on Ash a bit. It is really suprising how you seem to watch more closely once you already know whats going to happen and notice the smaller details
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Post by premierscfc on Sept 19, 2006 21:13:09 GMT
yea i noticed that too when i recently bought all the episodes and sister shows off ebay - you defo notice things you didn't before particularly regarding Lea and Nikki and their manipulating, You can also see that from maybe Ashs second day in the house Imogen seems to be spending time with Ash and less and less time with Grace. You also notice other nice little moments, such as spontanious hugs that Jennie and Ash would share out of nowhere when they were really close beofre the last couple of weeks when Jennie seemed to turn on Ash a bit. It is really suprising how you seem to watch more closely once you already know whats going to happen and notice the smaller details I have not got to far into it yet, just to the golden ticket night. I am trying to see if there is any reason for people to dislike Aisleyne and so far I can not find anything. Grace and Lisa keep saying she is fake without any evidence but I have not seen anything which would make the public dislike her even though I have seen plenty of people on the internet saying they hated her. I am trying to be objective but fail to see any reason to dislike her. |
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Post by julian on Sept 20, 2006 11:46:05 GMT
I have not got to far into it yet, just to the golden ticket night. I am trying to see if there is any reason for people to dislike Aisleyne and so far I can not find anything. Grace and Lisa keep saying she is fake without any evidence but I have not seen anything which would make the public dislike her even though I have seen plenty of people on the internet saying they hated her. I am trying to be objective but fail to see any reason to dislike her. People have often said that the editing was biased against Aisleyne but I never felt that to be the case. Certainly not from the highlight shows, anyway. The most prejudicial thing, with respect to influencing the public's opinion of Ash was the Machiavellian test on Big Brother's Big Brain. Essentially they just came right out and informed us that according to the psychology experts she was 'off the scale' as a lying, deceitful manipulator  Of course they backtracked when they revisited the results a few weeks before the end of the show but the damage had been done. Maybe the majority don't watch BBBB but a lot of the BBLB and BBBM audience do, as well as the eviction night crowds, and their attitude started feeding the audiences of those shows. If you just watch the highlights, though. I don't think there's a problem with how she was portrayed. Regards Julian |
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Post by odm on Sept 21, 2006 0:21:25 GMT
Please look at this picture of Aisleyne when she was remonstrating with Jennie. Look at the expression on her face. She was such a caring person to everyone in the house. I liked her from the start...and kept on liking her...we call her real, but the truth is that she has compassion and it overides any of her initial outbursts or emotions..basically she has got a soft heart and you can see this clearly in this photo...  she was just GENUINELY nicer than ALL the other housemates.... |
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Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2006 11:18:08 GMT
Julian I have to disagree with you re the bias, every night on BBLB Dermot had to say "but why is Aisleyne disliked so much, why does everyone say she is fake" I wont go into all the things that we saw as bias here, however it was very obvious to a lot of us on the BB site, so much so that we started to record and email about same, in fact I refused to watch it I was so disgusted.
I believe that the people that "hated" were Grace supporters then Nikki supporters. (although I dont understand how any one can hate someone in a tv program,)
The Mach result was the "straw that broke the camels back"
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Post by julian on Sept 21, 2006 12:11:33 GMT
Julian I have to disagree with you re the bias, every night on BBLB Dermot had to say "but why is Aisleyne disliked so much, why does everyone say she is fake" I wont go into all the things that we saw as bias here, however it was very obvious to a lot of us on the BB site, so much so that we started to record and email about same, in fact I refused to watch it I was so disgusted. Surely, Dermot saying that is a positive thing? It's not his fault the audience took a dislike to her. I'm quite convinced that he liked her and genuinely couldn't understand what their problem was. I remember watching the highlight shows with a great deal of sensitivity towards how they showed Aisleyne and, apart from a couple of shows, I found them to be pretty positive. They showed her caring side, they showed her patching up arguments, they showed her fun bits, they showed her being unfairly put upon and made it quite clear that it was unmerited. I remember when Jayne was bitching about her they immediately cut to a conversation Aisleyne was having about how she liked Jayne! Even with the Mach test, I think it was positive at that point. Everyone who watched E4 knew about the test already and I think it was the main reason they mistrusted her. By putting it on the show it gave her the opportunity to answer that criticism directly and what followed was Big Brother and Susie telling her that it really just meant she was shrewd rather than deceitful. This the highlights gave full coverage of. I've heard lots of people say that the coverage was biased but with the exception of one or two shows I completely disagree that the highlight shows were biased against her at all. Some of the other shows were prejudicial but primarily due to the comments of the audience and guests rather than those of the host or the content. The singular exception was the initial Mach test coverage on BBBB. I think that was out of order and probably the root of the anti-Aisleyne sentiment. Regards Julian |
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Post by frisky on Sept 21, 2006 12:20:31 GMT
Julian, I am becoming to wonder why you are actually on an Ais fan site. You seem to constantly stick up for contestants who have treated Ais badly in the house and at one point you posted that you understood the reasons why certain forum posters of other forums found Ais fake.
Why would anyone be on an Ais fan site if she is not their favourite contestant? I am bewildered. Then again I am the loyal type. Anyone who treats Ais bad, I automatically dislike with a vengeance!
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Post by julian on Sept 21, 2006 12:55:40 GMT
Julian, I am becoming to wonder why you are actually on an Ais fan site. You seem to constantly stick up for contestants who have treated Ais badly in the house and at one point you posted that you understood the reasons why certain forum posters of other forums found Ais fake. Why would anyone be on an Ais fan site if she is not their favourite contestant? I am bewildered. Then again I am the loyal type. Anyone who treats Ais bad, I automatically dislike with a vengeance! Not sure where you got the idea I don't like Ash  Aisleyne is my favourite out of every BB contestant I have ever seen (started watching in BB3). I love her to bits. I think Grace is an arrogant, vindictive, mean-spirited snob and Nikki is selfish, self-deluded, manipulative and spoilt. Having said that, if someone says something I disagree with I will quite happily say so. As much as I dislike Grace, I don' t believe it is a good thing that Grace was beaten up and I do not believe it is a good thing to express any kind of satisfaction at such a thing and I have no qualms in saying so. I don't happen to dislike Pete, I don't believe he was using Nikki as part of a plan and, if anything, I believe that sticking up for him is more in keeping with being an Aisleyne fan than attacking him given that Aisleyne likes him. As for the subject of this thread. In what way does my opinion of BB's editing have anything to do with my conviction as an Aisleyne fan? Since when do Aisleyne fans have to think BB was biased in order to be Aisleyne fans? I have always given people the benefit of the doubt. I don't believe in being overly judgemental and I try to keep an open and objective mind. I'm sorry if you find that objectionable but there's certainly no call to question my devotion to Aisleyne. Just check out this thread if you want evidence of that: fakersforais.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=story&action=display&thread=1156841521Regards Julian |
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Post by frisky on Sept 21, 2006 14:55:12 GMT
I never said I found it objectionable and I certainly don't condone violence towards anyone including Grace. I also don't like the fact you've intimated people on this forum are 'overly judgemental'.
I like the fact I can post on this forum without most people taking me to task for ranting or occasionally being pithy about people who were absolutely awful to Aisleyne.
It seems to me that you are judging anyone who might overreact or get het up on Aisleyne's behalf. Newsflash; this is a fan forum and I'll be as rude as I like about anyone I like but not other posters.
You seem to me to criticise other posters rather than certain housemates.
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