BB7 REPEAT

[julian]

frisky said:

I never said I found it objectionable and I certainly don't condone violence towards anyone including Grace. I also don't like the fact you've intimated people on this forum are 'overly judgemental'.

I apologize to anyone if that is the impression I gave but I can assure you I have not done anything of the kind.

I like the fact I can post on this forum without most people taking me to task for ranting or occasionally being pithy about people who were absolutely awful to Aisleyne.

I have never taken anyone to task on this forum but I believe you are 'taking me to task' and I believe that your accusations are quite unjustified.

I am entitled to my opinion and you are entitled to yours. I have never objected to your right to post your opinion but you are objecting to my right to post mine.

You have every right to be rude about other housemates and I have every right to defend them against criticism I consider unjustified whether I like them or not. You don't have to agree with me but, likewise, I don't have to agree with you and I resent the implication that by disagreeing with you I am less of a fan.

It seems to me that you are judging anyone who might overreact or get het up on Aisleyne's behalf. Newsflash; this is a fan forum and I'll be as rude as I like about anyone I like but not other posters.

You seem to me to criticise other posters rather than certain housemates.

I'm sorry you feel that way but you are 100% incorrect in that assessment. If someone posts something I disagree with I will post that I disagree with it and will back that up with why I disagree with it. It matters little to me whether the subject is about someone I like or someone I dislike. I am not disrespecting the poster just because I disagree with them and I am perfectly open to being persuaded to the other point of view with reasoned argument. That, to me, is how forums are designed to work. You seem to be taking my posts personally. That is not my intention. I have no problem with any of your posts (except the ones where you personally attack me) but I have no problem with people disagreeing with me and I don't see why people should have a problem with my disagreeing with them. Life would be very boring if we all agreed on everything!

Regards

Julian

[maringo]

I agree with Julian. I don't think the shows were that biased against Aisleyne. I mostly watched the highlights shows and got to like Aisleyne the best. Sometimes she got a bad edit, but sometimes she got a good edit (e.g. the week of Nikki's first eviction). I think the audiences and guests on the BB offshoots were the main source of bias (and, OK, maybe Davina as well).

[remaha]

From what I remember (and this is without the benefit of the DVDs), I would say that Julian is probably right about the highlight shows. Yes, the HL shows often didn't include some of the great Aisleyne moments we saw on the Live Feed. But we have to accept that the producers sometimes had an impossible task trying to condense 24 hours of action into about 45 minutes of TV. I am also conscious that the fans of nearly every HM probably claimed bias at one time or another.

I do think BBLB showed bias fairly consistently and it's possible to interpret Dermot's words as a constant reminder that we should not like Aisleyne because she is allegedly fake. I would veer towards this interpretation myself. The show that consistently treated Aisleyne the worst, however was BB's Big Brain. The "psychologists" seemed to be obsessed with Aisleyne's Mach score from the beginning and never adequately explained the true implications of the test.

[maringo]

remaha said:

The show that consistently treated Aisleyne the worst, however was BB's Big Brain. The "psychologists" seemed to be obsessed with Aisleyne's Mach score from the beginning and never adequately explained the true implications of the test.

I didn't catch the earlier episodes of BBBB. But in the final few weeks, the psychologists seemed much nicer. They kept on emphasizing that her Jonathon/Spiral reaction was genuine and that being Machiavellian wasn't a bad thing.

[premierscfc]

BB did show bias against Aisleyne in the sister shows but I am trying to see why. So far I have watched upto the time the 4 housemates who broke rules about nominations having to stand in the lounge and nominate 1 person in front of everybody and still have not seen any reason for the sister shows to go this way.

If BB were looking for someone to play the bad guy they could have picked Lea because watching this time round I am surprised how nasty and crafty she was. She was very subtle at times planting little nuggets(Lies)in peoples minds to cause trouble and would give Makosi a run for her money when it comes to playing the game.

[julian]

premierscfc said:

BB did show bias against Aisleyne in the sister shows but I am trying to see why. So far I have watched upto the time the 4 housemates who broke rules about nominations having to stand in the lounge and nominate 1 person in front of everybody and still have not seen any reason for the sister shows to go this way.

I guess some people might have had a problem with the thong-wearing. BB6 Sam got a lot of criticism for spending all her time in a bikini and Orlaith too. In the early days I was a little concerned by this seemingly blatant exhibitionism but her personality soon won me over. My guess is that this behaviour led some viewers to think she was trashy, BBLB then ran a "Quiz to Win the Housemates Stuff" which made her look stupid and, compounded that with Big Brother's Big Brain's Machiavellian test which told us she was manipulative and deceitful. The seeds were sown

Regards

Julian

[julian]

remaha said:

I do think BBLB showed bias fairly consistently and it's possible to interpret Dermot's words as a constant reminder that we should not like Aisleyne because she is allegedly fake. I would veer towards this interpretation myself.

I always felt that Dermot liked Aisleyne and was acutely embarrassed by the audience's reaction to her.

The first indication that he liked her, for me, was during the "Quiz to Win the Housemates Stuff" where they showed Aisleyne getting most of the questions wrong. He was constantly apologizing to Aisleyne for making her look stupid whereas for other housemates he had no problems showing how stupid their answers were

On the show just before sending the ex-housemates back in he actually went to Davina and asked her what she thought about all the Anti-Aisleyne sentiment and did she think they really meant it. I think the question took her by surprise but I definitely got the impression that he was quite shocked by and disapproving of the other housemates' attitudes.

When BBBB finally had psychiatrists on who were nice to Aisleyne and who said that they didn't think the Mach test meant she was deceitful he was falling over himself to convey that information in all of his subsequent shows. He repeated it on several occasions and he seemed very pleased when he heard she was second favourite to win. Again bringing it up repeatedly.

He was also very enthusiastic towards her during the interview on the BBLB reunion show.

I really think he liked her. It was just his audiences that had the problem.

Regards

Julian

[remaha]

julian said:

remaha said:

I do think BBLB showed bias fairly consistently and it's possible to interpret Dermot's words as a constant reminder that we should not like Aisleyne because she is allegedly fake. I would veer towards this interpretation myself.

I always felt that Dermot liked Aisleyne and was acutely embarrassed by the audience's reaction to her.

The first indication that he liked her, for me, was during the "Quiz to Win the Housemates Stuff" where they showed Aisleyne getting most of the questions wrong. He was constantly apologizing to Aisleyne for making her look stupid whereas for other housemates he had no problems showing how stupid their answers were

On the show just before sending the ex-housemates back in he actually went to Davina and asked her what she thought about all the Anti-Aisleyne sentiment and did she think they really meant it. I think the question took her by surprise but I definitely got the impression that he was quite shocked by and disapproving of the other housemates' attitudes.

When BBBB finally had psychiatrists on who were nice to Aisleyne and who said that they didn't think the Mach test meant she was deceitful he was falling over himself to convey that information in all of his subsequent shows. He repeated it on several occasions and he seemed very pleased when he heard she was second favourite to win. Again bringing it up repeatedly.

He was also very enthusiastic towards her during the interview on the BBLB reunion show.

I really think he liked her. It was just his audiences that had the problem.

Regards

Julian

LOL, Julian you may well be right. I have to admit that I hold a certain prejudice against Dermott and generally didn't watch his show. From the little I did watch, it was hard for me to see beyond what I thought was I a clear bias in favour of Glyn. I stopped watching mainly because I just found the format and style of presenting incredibly wooden. So you can see I do not come to this issue without baggage.