Reactions of Housemates

[remaha]

Why did Sezer, Imogen, Grace and Lisa react so negatively? How did Aisleyne deal with it? And what were the consequences?

[remaha]

Extract from previous posts

Aisleyne - character analysis - by Albee

Aisleyne entered the house on Day 12 in a box opened by Glyn in the Meal or No Meal game. Within a short space of time, Imogen, Sezer and Grace seemed to decide as a group that Aisleyne was a threat to the upperhand they had achieved in the house as “the plastics”. Sezer stated that he was going to “give her a hard time, that promotions girl”. As their b!tching about their new housemates intensified Sezer said “We got rid of one mongrel and now we've got another one, s*** for s***!” Not having made any effort to get to know Aisleyne, there was very little that they could legitimately have a problem with so in true Grace style, she cattily targeted Aisleyne’s appearance "That blonde one, you can imagine what she'll look like without make-up,". Slightly, off-topic but what really struck me during the targeting of the new HMs was that the “plastics” did not seem to want to use the new Hms names. For Sezer Aisleyne was “that promotions girl”, “a mongrel” and a “s***”. For Grace she was “that blond one”. Referring to the new Hms by name would have made them seem human to Sezer, Grace etc and so being mean to them later on would be more difficult – it’s harder to treat people badly if you can put yourself in their shoes and see that they have feelings, that can be hurt just like you.

Day 13 in the pool, Sezer continued in his mission to give Aisleyne a hard time. Challenging her to explain her presence in their house he demanded to know: "So why do you think you're here?" Keeping her answer short and blunt, a good strategic move, she replied "I have no idea,". With such a curt response, most people would leave the subject alone. However, Sezer was on a mission, his only option was to be persistent in his challenge and insist that she must have an idea “everyone has an idea”. Aisleyne became equally as challenging asking “What’s your idea then?” and went one step further and directly questioned his veiled attack "Why do you keep contradicting everything that comes out my mouth?". Ashleyne’s blunt style in ‘keeping it real’ with HMs, for example pointing out that that BB is a game and not to take things that happen personally, made her a difficult person to argue with for the other HMs.

Aisleyene’s first appearance in the diary room was with Sam, her fellow newbie. She and Sam both commented on the cold and stand-offish reception they received from the “the plastics” but Aisleyne insisted that the house bullies would not be able to push her around "Sezer is picking on me a bit, but I won't be having that for much longer!". Hardening herself for the expected difficult time she was going to have from "the plastics" she said to Sam "We could be queen b!tches". I think this staement told us alot about how Aisleyne copes when things get tough, or she expects things to get tough, Aisleyne seems to deal with it by becoming a ‘hardened, cold, bi@tch’, On the one hand this is a fairly effective way of coping with others ‘picking on you’, as you are saying to yourself “it doesn’t matter what they say or do because it doesn’t affect me, because I’m a b!tch”, but seeing yourself as a b!tch means that you start to be just as much of a bully, if not more of a bully, than the people you are trying to protect yourself from, because, in a sense, you are trying to outdo them. Although it’s an effective way of coping, which is why I think Aisleyne continues to use it, it has consequences attached.

When she is a cold, hardened b!tch, she seem to mistrust those around her and tries to be one step ahead of those she feel threatened by. Early on during her time in the house, she told Richard on several occasions that she knew what ‘games’ various housemates were playing, but she was ahead of them. This seems to me to be about being afraid of being hurt, so she tries to predict why her fellow Hms might be doing something, and at times, uses this as a way of hurting them, for example when she accused Lea of trying to manipulate the HMs with her tears. Is Aisleyne attempting to figure out what HMs are up to manipulative, perhaps, but it there to protect her from feeling hurt.

Being a hardened, cold, bi@tch, results in the majority of people disliking and ultimately rejecting you. Aisleyne seems to be aware of the consequences of being seen as a b!tch and doesn’t want this for herself. Whilst doing up Grace’s hair on Day 19 she said “Look, I know I seem like a bi@tch sometimes but I'm not." Is she a bi@tch sometimes, well yes, but aren’t we all? Is she a bi@tch all of the time, well, no. She seems to have swung between being a sensitive “cry baby” and a “hardened b!tch” quite a few times, during her time in the house. On her eight day in the house, Day 20, she demanded to know if Sam had been calling her a back-stabber behind her back after Lea had told her this. Sam denied it. Aisleyne stated "You f****** better not, 'cos I f****** ain't!" and stomped off. The day after her conflict with Sam, a tearful Aisleyne stayed in bed, (perhaps ruminating on what the Hms thought of her?) until Richard cheered her up. When she believes that others are attacking her, she tries to show that she is a person not to be messed with. However, she doesn’t appear to like these conflicts, but perhaps feels they are necessary other wise people will walk all over you? Her discomfort can be seen as she quickly walks away the moment she feels she has made her point. A classic example of this was when the HMs were in prison and she had an argument with Spiral after he had made a crude comment about licking curry off of her, she was saying “get out of my face” to him but it was in fact her who was walking away from the situation. After conflicts with Hms, Aisleyne often tries to make things better, as she is uncomfortable with feeling like a b!tch. She typically apologises for hurting the other person’s feelings but not for saying how she felt. To me this is a much more honest way of apologising than we have seen from other HMs.

[julian]

remaha said:

Why did Sezer, Imogen, Grace and Lisa react so negatively? How did Aisleyne deal with it? And what were the consequences?

I think it was primarily down to the newcomer syndrome. Relationships had already been formed and Aisleyne and Sam, as newcomers, were seen as outsiders and interlopers. Aisleyne's confident attitude would have put the more dominant housemates, Sezer and Grace's noses out of joint and Lisa and Imogen, feeling themselves part of Sezer and Grace's group were pretty much sucked in by peer pressure and Grace and Sezer's attempts to poison their minds against Ash.

Lisa tended to be angry at everyone anyway and was only too happy to have a target for it and Imogen probably always had an open mind about Aisleyne but, taking the path of least resistance, cheerfully nodded and laughed at all of Grace and Sezer's comments while keeping her own council.

This was pretty evident by Imogen's gravitation towards to Aisleyne as soon as Grace and Sezer had left.

As far as how she dealt with it, I'm not sure Aisleyne was even aware of it, initially. It was only after becoming friends with Imogen that she found out that Grace and Sezer had been slagging her off behind her back. I don't think she took the argument she had with Lisa that seriously either. She was more worried about intimidating Lisa than particularly concerned about Lisa's feelings towards her

Regards

Julian

Regards

Julian

[Cloud 9]

julian said:

remaha said:

Why did Sezer, Imogen, Grace and Lisa react so negatively? How did Aisleyne deal with it? And what were the consequences?

I think it was primarily down to the newcomer syndrome. Relationships had already been formed and Aisleyne and Sam, as newcomers, were seen as outsiders and interlopers. Aisleyne's confident attitude would have put the more dominant housemates, Sezer and Grace's noses out of joint and Lisa and Imogen, feeling themselves part of Sezer and Grace's group were pretty much sucked in by peer pressure and Grace and Sezer's attempts to poison their minds against Ash.

Lisa tended to be angry at everyone anyway and was only too happy to have a target for it and Imogen probably always had an open mind about Aisleyne but, taking the path of least resistance, cheerfully nodded and laughed at all of Grace and Sezer's comments while keeping her own council.

This was pretty evident by Imogen's gravitation towards to Aisleyne as soon as Grace and Sezer had left.

As far as how she dealt with it, I'm not sure Aisleyne was even aware of it, initially. It was only after becoming friends with Imogen that she found out that Grace and Sezer had been slagging her off behind her back. I don't think she took the argument she had with Lisa that seriously either. She was more worried about intimidating Lisa than particularly concerned about Lisa's feelings towards her

Regards

Julian

Regards

Julian

Julians post pretty much describes how I saw it too in relation to Grace, Sezer, Lisa and Imogen in relation to Ais.

Neither Sam or Ais were welcomed. Ais was a bigger personality and a stronger person and therefore more of a threat - and so she became the one that was bitched about most visciously (most disliked)....whereas Sam because of her lack of confidence became more of a laughing stock that could be ridiculed and teased behind her back, and her opnions ignored and considered unimportant for the most part when they all mixed with each other.

As I said, I agree with Julian - Aisleynes strong character would have been observed and this would have concerened Grace and Sezer who had established quite dominant roles for themselves, and were quite comfortable with that. Grace was always concerned with the gang side of things in the house as well (which 'side' had most members, which was most dominant) - this was shown when she panicked when it collapsed with George leaving and Sezer being evicted. It was clearly a thing she paid attention to - she showed this when the possibility of a new housemate being introduced to the house was discussed after Sezers eviction...she was quick to circle her gang and go over tactics of how they had to win the new person over to 'their side'. Given that Grace thought along those lines, I think Aiseyne and Sam entering the house and how it might effect the dynamics of the groups made her feel uneasy.

On top of all that, I think they actually got some enjoyment out of the bitching itself (Nikki would be included in this of course). As psychologists will tell you, bitching if often used by people as a way for a group to bond more (having a common enemy) and also to make themselves feel better (by degrading someone else). Aside from the dislike and feeling threatened, I think they quite enjoyed their bitchy sessions where they slagged off Aisleynes looks and Sams personality. The giggling in the toilets while they competed with each other as to who could slag both Sam and Ais off the most showed there was an entertainment value to it all as well.

[kowalski]

the incident with sam was interesting, where Lea told ash that sam had been bitching about her and ash got out of bed and immediately confronted Sam about it.

I'd never seen anyone act like that before, usually people stew over it and go around collecting more gossip, but Ash took immediate action . This impressed me because every year HMs say that if they have a problem with someone they'll say it to their face , but they never do, instead they just bi@tch about them . Well Ash DID say it to her face!
After the initial confrontation sam and ash stayed up at least an hour discussing it, but sam's version was only half true, ash immediately apologised for going off at her .

Sam never slept, she only got about 2 hours sleep a night, like shabaz she was getting that sleep-psychosis thing , not sure what it's called.

[Admin]

Imogen was as bad at the bitching in the begining. I have put a link in the resorces thread to a u tube.

I thought Sam and Aisleyne were aware of the bitching, they both went into the DR that night, Im still looking for the video to confirm this.

Aisleyne was well aware of what Grace and co where up to, see warror dance video.

There is also a u tube of the sam and Ais night long chat which showed that Sam was not as innocent or nice as s/he appeared.

If I can find them Ill post them.