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[julian]

August 12th, after Aisleyne confronted Grace on Grace's 21st birthday. A poster called Aisleyne a hypocrite for saying that Grace should have respect for an older woman even though Aisleyne had made an older woman cry and upset Nikki in a spiteful and vindictive manner on an earlier occasion. The poster cited the occasion as the moment she lost all respect for Aisleyne:

"I can't condone her actions towards Lea and Nikki in that week but she was genuinely sorry for it and apologized for it, and Lea, forgave her completely for it saying, during an interview on BBLB that she loved Aisleyne and wouldn't hear a word said against her. Do the victims of bullies usually say things like that?

In the meantime she has never acted anything like it before or since and most of the other housemates have had far worse arguments.

Ironically, I think the reason she decided to confront them, apart from the obvious hurt she was feeling from being nominated, was because she was feeling two-faced. Her natural instinct is to be nice to people but she was finding herself more and more convinced that they were being sly and fake and manipulative and damaging to Pete. She felt that Nikki was using Pete and that Lea was smothering him and using fake tears to generate sympathy for herself. She was finding herself discussing her feelings in the diary room and with others while still, outwardly, being nice to them and, as she said in the diary room, that was making her feel like a Judas. She had come into the house stating that she was going to 'keep it real' and so she felt obligated to say what she felt to their faces instead of behind their backs.

That's what happens when you decide to stop being two-faced.

What she learned was that it was better to be two-faced than to hurt people by confrontation. She had a conversation with Michael shortly after she got back from the house next door in which she pretty much said as much. She said she'd rather be nice to people than hurt them and she knew that she'd get booed for it when she got out but that was what the true meaning of 'keeping it real' was because being true to herself meant not wanting to hurt people even if it got her branded as two-faced.

Michael alluded to the conversation during his eviction interview when he said she knows she's going to get booed but she'd rather stick to her values.

Remember when Aisleyne took off her high heels when arguing with Lisa because she didn't want to appear intimidating? Hardly the actions of a bully.

Aisleyne's not a bully but she's intensely loyal to her friends and is prepared to stand up for them and what she believes is right. She felt an obligation to confront Grace but she also felt that it was wrong to do it on her Birthday and was mindful of upsetting Glyn so she backed down. Since when did bullies take these sorts of things into consideration?

She did a bad thing and she admitted it was wrong, apologized and tried to make it better. If Nikki doesn't want to believe she's genuine then that's Nikki's problem but I'm sure it is. "

Regards

Julian

[CazPar]

I made a post a few days ago on digispy, but unfortunately I don't have access to it at the moment - ahem!

When I get access in a couple of week, I think I will make the post on here. It was basically explaining why I thought Aisleyne was so upset when she had to choose between Jonathan and Spiral from HND. I may be one of the few people who thinks it could have been genuine. There, I explain why I believe that. I could explain it here and now, but I put it quite well there I think, and was even picked up positively on it by one of the other FMs there, which is always nice, isn't it?

[remaha]

Respect to DogTired, battybetty and julian. This is exactly the sort of stuff we want to read again.

See, it's not so difficult. If you've got them saved, share them with us.

CazPar if you gave us a bit more of a clue where to find it we could cut and paste it for you. What was the thread called?

[remaha]

gwenyth said:

That was an excellent post - thanks for putting it on here where, hopefully it will not be removed - well done!!

Wow battybetty, top post. Really excellent. I never saw it the first time round (nor the second and third times). Thanks for putting it up.

[battybetty]

Posted by remaha on Today at 8:37

Yesterday at 19:32, gwenyth wrote:That was an excellent post - thanks for putting it on here where, hopefully it will not be removed - well done!!

Wow battybetty, top post. Really excellent. I never saw it the first time round (nor the second and third times). Thanks for putting it up.

Thanks andy, gwyneth too. See, I promise Im not just a pretty face and a cheeky joker in the fakers bar I can do serious with gusto when the need or mood arises. Ive even with the bopping mods in order to keep my posts from being eaten by the trolls. They really didn't like that one for some reason cant imagine why.
In fact Don't tell everyone. But Im actually only 'batty' on a part-time basis.

[guinan]

I don't want to have a go at any of the HMs, but I'm happiest about anything I posted that made people laugh. This first one got pulled, so I suppose I'm proud of that.
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APOLOGY

Channel 4, Endemol and the managing agents for Davina McCall, Dermot O’Leary, Russell Brand, Chantelle Houghton and Nikki Graham would like to state that none of the ‘twists’ and variations from previous years Big Brother programmes were unplanned. We like to but we can’t.

We just didn’t think Miss Graham would blow it so early and we had to work quickly to get her back in. We apologise to our shareholders that this took three weeks, but at an emergency strategy meeting held within 24 hours of Miss Graham’s premature eviction it was realised that we could use the opportunity to promote and groom her for a return too late in the series for her to mess it up again.

We are confident that the Channel 4 editing team fully understand their key role during the last two weeks, but they warned us that they have very little to work with, and advised us that it would be safer to risk repeat performances, as initial trials at teaching Miss Graham new tricks had proved unsuccessful.

Independent trainers from Billy Smart’s Circus were consulted, but they estimated for Miss Graham to deliver a convincing performance would take at least six months intensive coaching. This time scale was based mainly on the fact it takes her two hours to eat a bowl of cornflakes and their doctor had warned that if she weren’t fed 3 times a day there was a real possibility of her disappearing completely.

We have been unable to resolve the problem of the chin.

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Just one more.
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BB7 PLANNING MEETING

PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL

BBUK SERIES 7 – 03/05/06

Okay, The builders assure me that they've solved the problem with the sound-proofing, so I think we've got all bases covered.

We’ve got that guy with TS that we’ve been holding in reserve for a few years, we’ll start with him.
(Memo to self, this guy will never get nominated, get some money on him early his odds are bound to shorten)

The little girl seems to have got over her eating disorder, we can’t do anything about the chin and she does have the intellect of a flea, but I think we should go with her.

That welsh bit has a degree apparently, but she should look good in a bikini. Also she speaks welsh, it’s a language apparently, so how about we also put the skinny taffy that Sarah in accounts receivable said looked ‘sweet’.

The one that talks as if she’s got marbles in her mouth should go in first, we need some cannon fodder.

Not sure about the black woman, but we can always find some reason to get rid of her.

That skinny posh bird should be given a go, but we need a male counterpart. What about Greg, or is it George. Let’s run with him. He auditioned, he’s bound to stay.

We need some abbs. I know most of you think Mikey’s a pratt of the first order, but my 13 year old daughter thinks he’s fit and loads of young girls vote. So I recommend him over Martin.

That woman with the big tits should definitely be in. She’s bound to offend everyone and give us the press coverage we need to get this thing rolling.

Sezer the Geezer is also a definite must. The girls should love him.

Not sure about that little Chinese girl. When I interviewed her she seemed a bit quiet, although she did smile a lot. We need some numbers and the swearing from the TS bloke should be reduced if we bring in someone like her who won’t swear.

Just missing some gays. I know we agreed Kitten had buggered it for Lessies until 2008, but that just leaves us with the Canadian, the guy with the stuffed cat and the nutty Scots. I say we keep the cat man in reserve and let baldy have a go first. So number 13 is a choice between the scrounger and the frightened one. Let’s keep Sam back, We don’t want competition to Bonnie for the week one eviction.

Right, now for the week 2 spicing. Let’s agree we put that tart with the funny legs in. She’ll be out by week 4 so we need someone to give a bit of human interest, because that Slapper’s going to win no fans. It’s a choice between Clare and Sam. If we put Clare in she could win it, and we can’t have that. So I say go with Sam.

This Kit Kat thing has got me a bit worried. I know when Sabastian and I went to Cosmo’s last week he assured us that we could get away with it, but Christ, I fell asleep watching the woman having a w**k. Mind you she did make a great cup of tea to wake me up.

We haven’t got any Irish in there, so I recommend we put Glen in, but we’ll have to give him a funny name. Add cat man and the bouncer. Can anyone remember the name of that Liverpudlian girl?

Anyway I see no reason we shouldn’t cream it this year as always and we shouldn’t have to revert to any mid-series twists.

With regard to the presenters, we don’t seem to have a problem with Russell. Davina’s got her mind on delivering, (By the way always bet on her wearing black, no matter how short the odds) but I’m sure we can get away with her for another couple of series. Dermott is the problem. As we have no solution we’ll have to run with him.

As for BB8, I totally agree that the one-legged blind midget with the stutter should be our first choice.

[remaha]

guinan, I saw the second one but missed the first. Both excellent. Thanks ;D

[julian]

Nice one Guinan, very funny

I tracked down a few more:

July 17th, someone on a Michelle Bass forum was annoyed at how Aisleyne had apparently started being nice to people since she came back from the house. She said it was bad tactics and would earn her boos when she got out. She said that she can't bear to watch the show any more and hated Aisleyne's laugh and the faces she pulled to the camera.

For me, Aisleyne is my main reason to watch the show now and if she comes out to boos it'll be just as unjustified as the reaction to Michelle on her eviction.

On the other hand, I think she has polarized opinion in a very similar way to Michelle so I think that even with the boos she's going to be one of the more successful housemates this year once she gets out.

In particular I think she's going to have made a lot of friends in the process and that's the most important thing. The boos are transitory but the friendships will last a lot longer and I think that's her main motivation now. She's already said that being friendly to the people she nominates is likely to result in boos but she doesn't care about pleasing the public now, she cares about being true to herself and doing the right thing by her fellow housemates.

Have you also noticed how careful she is not to name drop? She could have named Spiral as the reason she was asking Susie about what she wears but she deliberately kept his name out of it. The same with Pete when she was trying to get Nikki to open up about her problems with her.

She's always thinking about how her actions will affect other people.

Personally I think she gives Cameron a run for his money for Big Brother's most considerate housemate. But what do I know!


Here's another. I had just complained about how most of the criticism against Aisleyne was down to unfounded cynicism. In an effort to rebut this a poster brought up Aisleyne's comment when Nikki, Lea, Mikey and Grace were shown on the monitor when they returned to the house in which Aisleyne exclaimed that they can't be allowed in because they know all about us from the outside world. The poster pointed out that she was the first person to bring this up, that she was the first to mention the prize money and the first to be thinking strategically about winning and about who was the biggest threat to that.

This is precisely what I mean by cynical interpretation unsupported by the facts.

The comment about how they know everything about us, can be understood by taking it in context. The housemates couldn't understand why they were being sent next door instead of into the main house and Aisleyne suggested that the reason they were moved next door and weren't allowed to mix with them was because they knew everything from the outside world. A perfectly sensible observation which echoed a lot of the thoughts of the people who were so upset about the twist on the outside.

However, anyone who watched the live feed could see that, unlike a lot of people on the outside, she wasn't the slightest bit threatened or upset. She was laughing and smiling in excitement and saying how she wanted Nikki to come in straight away. Hardly the thing to do if you're worried about winning or about who is the biggest threat!

It's ridiculous to think that she has any expectation of doing well given all the chanting to get her out that she hears every week along with the all the cheering for Pete.

The only thing that her comments prove is that she is very good at analysing situations and the ramifications of them. To me that's a positive trait and one that I've always admired in her.


Last one! I was starting to win the poster over and she had revised her opinion of Aisleyne on seeing her reaction to the showing of her audition video. She said that Aisleyne had been the person in that video up until the House Next Door and she hoped that she was genuine in wanting to put that person behind her.

I don't believe Aisleyne was ever the person we saw in that audition tape. The attitude was all a front - a defense mechanism for surviving in the hostels and the environment she found herself growing up in.

For me, Aisleyne has been a caring and loving person from the start. It was only her second week when Sam was announced for eviction and Aisleyne was the only one to comfort her while everyone else was congratulating her opponents. Then, that same day, she was comforting Glyn when he heard the boos outside and really helped him come to terms with it (as he admitted to her a few weeks ago).

She had many deep and meaningful conversations with Pete, helping him through his insecurities. She was kind to Susie from the moment she came in to the moment she left while many of the 'plastics' continued their policy of ostracising newcomers.

She had one week where the 'attitude' came to the fore but it was very forced, done out of a feeling that she had an obligation to be direct with people, and she regretted it afterwards.

If people try to take advantage of her or her friends then she'll stand up to them. I don't think that will change and I don't want it to.

BB has a tendency to strip off the mask and expose who you really are. Aisleyne hasn't changed as much as she thinks she has, she's just not wearing the mask any more.


Regards

Julian

[remaha]

Thanks for sharing those with us Julian. I particularly liked the last one. I really had an "I wish I'd said that" moment there.

[crystal]

This isn't mine. I took it from DSBB this morning. I think it's a great post.

Poor Aisleyne. The difficult relationship with her mum must have deeply undermined the adolescent girl. It is small wonder she clung to a man who is deemed unacceptable, yet he gave her the affection she must have craved for.And loyalty, to Aisleyne, is such an important element of a reationship. If that was not enough, she lost her baby- a baby that would have made her grow into the kind of mother she wanted. Any loss is tragic but this is especially devastating. On top of that double whammy, her man is imprisoned, at a time when she needed him most. It's disasterous but Aisleyne is programmed to be loyal. Then another miscarriage- when , had circumstances been different, the prospect of a new baby could have offered a new chapter. She is clearly grieving for her mum, for her babies, her man and griving for herself- for the Aisleyne she could have been, for the potential for happiness that eludes her. No wonder she opened up to Lea and was so protective of Susie. She thought a woman of her age- similar to her mother's age, should be treated with respect. That girl needs her mother, it's as plain as daylight. And if that is impossible, she needs a mother figure. I do wonder why she put herself through the ordeal of BB and why was her vulnerability not identified. I had a gut feeling on eviction night that she desparately hoped that BB would lead to a reunion with her mother. It's how she played it, I think. ' My mum will be watching ' she said, or words similar in meaning. Maybe she thought that BB would draw a line under her recent past , be the beginning of a new phase of her life. I hope it works out for her- this is a fragile young woman. That street stuff was never very convincing, was it, she was brittle . Take that brittle exterior away, and there is an unhappy woman with nowhere really to turn. I am desperataly sad for her.

I think it sums up her strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully she'll be able to turn things round now.