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Post by remaha on Aug 29, 2006 8:52:01 GMT
I think some of you probably put a lot of effort into writing posts on the C4 / DS forums that probably got deleted. If you saved any of them, why don't you share them with us here.
Nobody should be shy about doing this. It's not like your posting them on "Great Posts about Aisleyne".
If you do add anything, it might be a good idea to add a bit of explanation about the context of your post, although that won't always be necessary.
I would have been happy to start the ball rolling but, unfortnately never saved anything.
[Later edit by Remaha] If you want to ensure that other people's posts are saved for posterity you can add them to the "Great Posts about Aisleyne" thead. Although I'm not planning to add any of the posts in here to the "Great Posts about Aisleyne" thread (to avoid duplication), they all deserve to be included. Instead, what I have done is to add a link in the "Great post" thread to this one. [End of edit]
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Post by bluebellberries on Aug 29, 2006 8:54:48 GMT
I think some of you probably put a lot of effort into writing posts on the C4 forums that probably got deleted. If you saved any of them, why don't you share them with us here. Nobody should be shy about doing this. It's not like your posting them on "Great Posts about Aisleyne". If you do add anything, it might be a good idea to add a bit of explanation about the context of your post, although that won't always be necessary. I would have been happy to start the ball rolling but, unfortnately never saved anything. I dont believe that remaha
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Post by remaha on Aug 29, 2006 10:19:57 GMT
I think some of you probably put a lot of effort into writing posts on the C4 forums that probably got deleted. If you saved any of them, why don't you share them with us here. Nobody should be shy about doing this. It's not like your posting them on "Great Posts about Aisleyne". If you do add anything, it might be a good idea to add a bit of explanation about the context of your post, although that won't always be necessary. I would have been happy to start the ball rolling but, unfortnately never saved anything. I dont believe that remaha OK, I've been rumbled. Truth is I never said anything worth saving.
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Post by remaha on Aug 29, 2006 11:01:25 GMT
Just thought that with DS members coming over, it'd be even more interesting to see some of their saved posts as well.
Don't be shy.
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Post by Admin on Aug 29, 2006 12:14:55 GMT
Here is a reply to the Aisleyne's Journey thread" I have left out the other poster.
Thank you for your comments. I did not write the article. See previous posts for the author. I do not think the article is trying to excuse her behavior, merely pointing out that of all the HM's perhaps Aisleyne has been on the greatest journey. In your opinion she looks and behaves like a tart, not in mine. I also think your comment "and deserves no better is an indication that you believe women who dress a certain way "get what they deserve" scary thought that this line of thinking still prevails today. What lies has she told?
All HM's, in fact all human beings are manipulative, its how we survive. But I'm interested to know what kind of manipulation you mean. Do you mean Emotional Blackmail? Nikki was the biggest exponent of that. Who has Aisleyne bullied? Oh yes "you're boring" how could we forget that. Sly, how? Conniving with her behavior, HOW? Which guys, do you mean the men? How have they been fooled by Aisleyne? Maybe you have only watched glimpses of BB?
Aisleyne had no choice other than to bond with the likes of Richard Lea and Suzie, she tried to bond with Sam, but if you watched the Sam and Aisleyne video available on "you tube" you would see how Sam manipulated Aisleyne in an all night session. When has she bit@ched to Imogen about drinking tea with Richard and Suzie? IMO Suzie is one of the persons Aisleyne likes and respects the most in the house. I would think she has an agent, don't they all? How and when was she coached for BB
No I have not brought this up in response to Richards letter, why should I? I do not understand the respect my opinion comment? I have also made up my mind from watching ALL the HM's I am not trying to change anyone's opinion of her. I am putting across a different opinion. That is what this forum is for.
I'll look for some more later.
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Post by battybetty on Aug 29, 2006 18:19:46 GMT
Ooh alright then! This was one of the first real threads that I started myself on BBGEN. Being a total newbie to forums at the time, I admit to being totally gobsmaked by the response. I reached over 2000 views and more than 200 replies, the first time it was posted. It was pulled because the trolls hated it and got it deleted. I ended up posting it third time, by then pretty miffed that all the wonderful responses had gone but determined to keep it going until the highlights had been shown, so that people without live feed could see a bigger picture!! That post alone reached over 8380 views and almost 600 responses before I lost sight of it and it was removed again. By then it had served it's purpose and had highlighted the contrast between what was shown on HL as opposed to what we could see on live feed. The post was about the night (and events leading up to it), when Nikki threw a wobbler in the bathroom to Jayne and Richard accusing Ais of bullying her so much she wanted to leave. It was just after Aisleynes return from the HND and after Ash had apologised to her about what had happened before. Some of you may remember it but it seems like a very long time ago now.........
"Right then, what a night it was. So let’s get this Nikki/Ash thing straight. What happened this time??? Well I tell you what…..:
Saturday afternoon all was supposedly relatively fine in self absorbed Nikki world. Ash had been the adult once again and was apologetic, reassuring and consoling towards Nikki. BUT…this doesn’t fit with Nikkis plans, because it shows Ash in far too positive a light and leaves Nikki nowhere to go with her plans to paint Ash as the embodiment of all evil.
So what went wrong after that? Well plenty:
First mistake Ash made was that she failed to react to Nikki taking her dinner. This didn’t fit with Nikkis 'plan A' for the day. She wanted Ash to kick off so Nikki could look the victim. Instead Ash brushed it off. Nikki was well P'd off because this meant only she looked bad. Second unwittingly mistake Ash made was the 'sinful' error of spending too much time with Pete putting the colour on his hair.(shame on her ) Third and most deadly mistake Ash made...she took part in the role playing game as Petes fiancé no less! Nikkis face was contorted the whole time! When did Nikki actually strop off in hysterical tears?? I'll tell you when...it was the moment in the role playing when Pete was saying 'I love you' to Ash. It was the last straw for Nikki...and the rest of the HM's including Ash and Pete, were completely oblivious to the effect their innocent actions had. Even now, none of them realise it was that moment which sparked Nikkis hysterics and the ensuing assassination of Ash's character in the bathroom again.
Basically, Nikki wants Ash out of the house by any means possible. She does see Ash as a threat, but not in the physical sense that she is trying to make everyone believe. She feels that Ash detracts attention from her, and most importantly detracts Petes attentions from her. Ash making up with Nikki makes it far too difficult for Nikki to vent her jealous frustrations about this without looking stupid.
In Nikkis eyes Ash represents her main competitor. Nikki has major self esteem issues that colour everything she does. She is jealous of Petes friendship with Ash, of her continued friendship with Glyn and Imo, and of her popularity with the new HM's. She sees Ash having fun and she doesn’t know any way to compete. She also knows from previous experience that Ash can see through her performances. Her only hope is to turn HM's against Ash by whatever means possible and hope that the public then vote her out.
The trouble with this is that everyone ends up talking to each other at some point. It didn’t take long for Ash to get wind of Nikkis comments. Nikkis problem then got worse...because Ash once again offers Nikki and olive branch. Comforting her and offering Nikki the chance to say her piece. Everyone waits with baited breath for Nikki to tell Ash what the problem is! But of course Nikki can’t tell her, because Ash genuinely hadn't done anything wrong. And Nikki couldn’t possibly tell any HM the real reasons she is so P'd off with Ash. WHY? Because the real reasons are just selfish and pathetic and in no way are they the fault of Ash!
The upshot of Saturday nights events were that Ash was left in an impossible position of being labelled a bully without any chance to defend or protest her innocence. She was da*ned for no reason, and Nikki continued playing the martyr, breaking into tears again to ensure that she would secure Petes sympathy and a place in his bed again. Meanwhile, poor Ash was left dismayed and devastated. If it wasn’t for the support given to her by Pete, Jennie and most wonderfully by Sprial, who showed surprising emotionally maturity in his pep talk with Ash.
Nikki proved herself to be every inch the manipulator last night. I personally think that under that cute face is a very calculating but very poorly mind. There’re a lot more going on with her than a few tantrums and melodramatics. The girl is in need of some serious therapy. She has to go for Ash’s sanity and Petes too! She’s not good for his health at all. His tourettes was off the scale again afterwards".
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Post by gwenyth on Aug 29, 2006 18:32:36 GMT
That was an excellent post - thanks for putting it on here where, hopefully it will not be removed - well done!!
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Post by julian on Aug 29, 2006 19:29:36 GMT
Ok, here's one I wrote on the Michelle Bass Official forum after someone started a thread entitled 'Don't let it Happen!'. They wanted to know how people can like her in spite of the crocodile tears, sudden change in personality after the fake eviction, her manipulative games and her stupid 'ghetto' lingo:"People who like her do so because they don't believe the tears are crocodile tears, they don't believe she is being manipulative, they don't make judgements of people based on their speech mannerisms and they believe that any changes after her time next door are a genuine attempt to improve herself. Your assessment of her motives can only be based on your opinion as there is no factual evidence to prove them. In the meantime there is plenty of evidence of Aisleyne caring for people who are down, offering them support and showing consideration for other people's feelings. She has shown loyalty and integrity on several occasions by not betraying a confidence, she has been one of the least bi@tchy people in the house and she has shown real maturity and skill in bringing people together and patching up feuds. In my opinion she is one of the most caring, compassionate and considerate housemates ever to appear on Big Brother and, considering what she's been put through by BB and the chanting crowds, not to mention her fellow housemates over the last few months I think she would make one of the most deserving winners yet! Besides, isn't the theme supposed to be 'Inside Out' this year? Having the most disliked housemate suddenly turn it round to become the most liked housemate seems strangley fitting "
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Post by battybetty on Aug 29, 2006 19:34:12 GMT
That was an excellent post - thanks for putting it on here where, hopefully it will not be removed - well done!! Cheers gwyneth (another welsh girl surely??? there are sooo many of us on here!) LOl well given the amount of ribbing remaha takes from me I wouldn't blame him if he deleted it with extreme prejudice Feels a bit big headed to post it now, but Ais was taking a right thrashing at the time, so I was was pleased that it had reached so many people who only got to see the one sided edit.
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Post by julian on Aug 29, 2006 19:52:27 GMT
This post was made on July 17th. The poster I was replying to called Aisleyne the most despicable person ever and hoped she would get booed after viewing her performance on Nikki's eviction. She considered her treatment of Nikki to be an act, believing that Aisleyne had set out to destroy Nikki and that Aisleyne had been gloating when Nikki left. She said she was not surprised Nikki was intimidated by her:
"She wasn't gloating at all. She was as shocked as the rest of them and she was one of the first to go over and try to be supportive of Nikki. She spent the last ten minutes helping Nikki put her nails on and giving her words of encouragement and later that night she was confiding in Imogen that she hoped they'd be friends outside because she had really misunderstood her in the early days.
She never acted the slightest bit intimidating since she came back from the house next door. All intimidation was entirely in Nikki's head, ably fueled by Jayne's spiteful whisperings in her ear and Nikki's intense jealousy over Pete. When Nikki left, Aisleyne didn't even know Nikki still had a problem with her!
Aisleyne was a star that night, IMO. Once again she was the first to give comfort and support to an evictee. She was sympathetic to Richard. She instinctively knew not to crowd Pete and to give him space to get over Nikki by himself. She spent ten minutes with her arm around Jayne trying to comfort her - despite this being the woman who had publicly humiliated her by admitting to s******g her off and talking about how the outside world disliked her.
She had the sensitivity not to claim Nikki's bed despite Nikki's prediction that she'd be in it straight away (in fact it was Jayne who ended up taking it a few days later).
Once again Aisleyne proved herself to be one of the most compassionate. considerate and sensitive housemates in the house and how anyone can interpret her as a 'nasty piece of work' on the basis of Friday night is absolutely beyond me "
Regards
Julian
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