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Post by Harvestgoddess on Jan 1, 2007 14:41:30 GMT
I just dont understand it in my view nobody should have WOMD but britain does and so does america so what we have said to iraq is your not allowed WOMD and we will blast you with our WOMD if we think you have (they didnt as we now know ) but where is the sense in any of that ? Saddam as RG has said i think should of been locked away for the rest of his days , i certainly dont think tony blair is as bad as saddam but he is responsible for innocent deaths whatever his good intentions as is george bush and if you go back you have to question the mentality of a man who was quite happy to sell arms and weapons to iraq when it suited which were used against other innocents but then after 9/11 had a change of heart and im not so sure this would have happened had it not been for 9/11 but then was the iraq war a knee jerk reaction on americas and britains part .
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Post by odm on Jan 1, 2007 14:50:28 GMT
Yes but where is these *weapons* that everyone went on about - its now even more appalling that we needed to see this in all the front pages of the news today of what they did to him.... Julian im not quite comparing T Blair to Saddam but i just dont like the guy - what exactly has he done - He says he will do this and that - but he is m ore interested in international politics and freebie holidays - hmmm i can go on but nhs, education, knocking down great houses - hence in the place where i am from government labour run, every bit of spare land has housing developments, but they wander why people are leaving the city, but continiously knock multi's down, got people who have had land for years moved out knocked their place down and built tiny wee houses on too of each other, they have more time for the pc brigade/human rights people also....more than they do us. Also does he need to smarm himself into popstars good books - so maybe by the end of his term he might next be a lord or sir who knows - but i forget he got rid of the proper lords from the house of lords. I hear on front page news that Tony and Cherie Blair are going to stay at Robin Gibbs Mansion....there is/was quite a story on google about it...it was on there yesterday...
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Post by odm on Jan 1, 2007 14:54:28 GMT
as an afterthought.... ....does it ever occur to anybody that during the 'blowing up' of the twin towers the American government was busy at that time flying out all of the bin laden family out of America... ...the American government HANDED saddam over to the Iraq authorities... we saw what we saw on TV...but that is ALL we saw.... so its like I say..dont BELIEVE ANYTHING you see or read unless you are there personally. Governments and Politics to me are just a lovely way of controlling the masses...and they do it beautifully because we are mostly all so dumbed down...and I do say MOSTLY..which means NOT ALL..
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Post by Harvestgoddess on Jan 1, 2007 14:56:45 GMT
Yes i read about that too izzy you have to wonder at that
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Post by Harvestgoddess on Jan 1, 2007 15:17:23 GMT
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Post by odm on Jan 1, 2007 15:42:57 GMT
;D *waves madly to izzy * 3 sugars if your making a fresh one ;D one for you Harvie and one for me! lol
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Post by Harvestgoddess on Jan 1, 2007 16:36:27 GMT
;D *waves madly to izzy * 3 sugars if your making a fresh one ;D one for you Harvie and one for me! lol Thanks izzy ;D
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Post by julian on Jan 1, 2007 19:44:01 GMT
I just dont understand it in my view nobody should have WOMD but britain does and so does america so what we have said to iraq is your not allowed WOMD and we will blast you with our WOMD if we think you have (they didnt as we now know ) but where is the sense in any of that ? Nobody threatened Iraq with the use of Nuclear weapons, or any other Womds. Such things would be an absolute last resort. Several powers have had Weapons of Mass Destruction since the 40's and have not used them since the first time. That's because they know just how desparate the situation would have to be for them to do so. The most likely way in which such a weapon would be used is if it was in the hands of a power-mad religious fanatic who has no respect for life and would consider death in a nuclear conflagration to be a worthy sacrifice if it brought about the death of his enemies. The kind of people responsible for 9/11 are the kind of people this world cannot afford to have that kind of power at their fingertips. Any loss of innocent life caused by the Iraq conflict pales to insignificance compared to the loss of innocent life that we would have been risking if those Womd's had been real. Even if they weren't real, we liberated Iraq from a ruthless dictator. Personally I don't see why people think that's a bad thing. I think it was worth doing in its own right, Womds or not. Regards Julian
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Post by Harvestgoddess on Jan 1, 2007 22:38:20 GMT
I just dont understand it in my view nobody should have WOMD but britain does and so does america so what we have said to iraq is your not allowed WOMD and we will blast you with our WOMD if we think you have (they didnt as we now know ) but where is the sense in any of that ? Nobody threatened Iraq with the use of Nuclear weapons, or any other Womds. Such things would be an absolute last resort. Several powers have had Weapons of Mass Destruction since the 40's and have not used them since the first time. That's because they know just how desparate the situation would have to be for them to do so. The most likely way in which such a weapon would be used is if it was in the hands of a power-mad religious fanatic who has no respect for life and would consider death in a nuclear conflagration to be a worthy sacrifice if it brought about the death of his enemies. The kind of people responsible for 9/11 are the kind of people this world cannot afford to have that kind of power at their fingertips. Any loss of innocent life caused by the Iraq conflict pales to insignificance compared to the loss of innocent life that we would have been risking if those Womd's had been real. Even if they weren't real, we liberated Iraq from a ruthless dictator. Personally I don't see why people think that's a bad thing. I think it was worth doing in its own right, Womds or not. Regards Julian Im not sure how you actually come to the conclusion that we liberated iraq im quite certain that if you actually went over and asked some of the iraqis how they felt, liberated would not be a word of their choosing and as for the WOMD the actual weapons america and britain did drop on iraq caused enough destruction .
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Post by ravengirl on Jan 2, 2007 0:15:10 GMT
Apperently more americans have now died in the Iraq war then did in 9/11
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