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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:34:29 GMT
Great one here that Ohdearieme picked up from the GF today. I think it earns a place:
Originally posted by Mummy Bear New Member Posted 13-08-06 11:03 When Aisleyne first arrived on BB, she seemed to me to be 'fluffy', with not a lot to her except for white fluff round her neck, the finger-clicking and the ghetto-speak. I took to her through her own speedy guilt and concern of making a mistake at her nomination of Sam, because I recognize and appreciate depth and sensitivity in people.
Certainly, when she was up for what she believed to be eviction, she was a Grade A Cow, PMT or not. Yet she was hurt - to be so quickly and easily dismissed - as would most of us be in that kind of situation, and I felt for her, as not many Housemates had given time to getting to know her. That doesn't excuse her behaviour towards Lea and Nikki - but she didn't excuse it to herself, either. She knew she was being horrible and she didn't like seeing that in herself. She made amends with Lea - and tried, very hard, to do the same with Nikki.
The 'Fluff' was seen to have substance early and, since then, she's repeatedly shown a sweet and giving heart, and a mind that is so eager to be stimulated and learn. It's a shame that others don't seem able to see her as I do. I've come to love her good qualities so much, I want to adopt her.
Perception is such a personal thing - and, being a 'people-watcher' rather than a programme-watcher, it's been felt that my perception has been more than challenged. I live up a mountain, in the middle of nowhere, in a foreign country, yet 'Bash Ais' has been noticeable in its frequence.
We get to see C4, no more - yet from certain, regular, comments from presenters and their guests and, without a doubt from editing, there is a bias. A good example is the startling number of times Ais is shown as staring directly into the cameras (OH, Love me, love me, I love myself!). On revue, from a different angle, she can be clearly seen to actually be looking at someone, NOT her own reflection or into a camera.
What I love so much about the girl is her humanity (the good and the bad) - and her willingness to humility within both. Having, for the first time tapped into a forum, it's been really rather nice to discover that others appear to feel as strongly as I do. There's an element of distress, though.
Floating through the entries here, a lot of 'Ais fans' would seem similar to myself: 'older' and more inclined to be drawn to the 'spiritual' aspects of life. Don't knock either - some of us wrinklies could out party a room of 20-somethings, while 'spirituality' doesn't mean we belong in La La Land. Too, being a philosopher, maybe it's true that she does appeal to 'thinkers'. But it's not her intelligence that grabs us - she speaks to our hearts, by wearing her heart on her sleeve...
So... What's distressing is the attitude and antagonism some of Aisleyne's supposed fans are portraying.
To put it in Aisleyne speak: the girl don't need yo' help in her own yard - and you ain't helpin'!
Ais is liked, by many of us, for reasons we can't explain. We see a kindness, a goodness, a sincerity that others don't - and we watch a serious struggle for this to emerge. That's what's so admirable. In taking time out to listen, watch the body language and eye signals, and observe when and where and how she becomes 'alive' is when the girl is seen a star. She may snap her fingers, show attitude, and laugh oddly at times - but this doesn't make her 'fake'. It's a defence system of a vulnerable young woman - and one she is ready to laugh at about herself.
Other people don't see that - and that's absolutely fine. I wish they would. I wish they could. But everyone's opinion is expressed from their own perception. They are not only entitled to that, they deserve respect for it.
NOBODY needs to stand up and shout (especially nastily) for a girl that struggles to establish values and integrity within herself - and stick to them. So for others to lobby on her behalf by being unkind or ungracious about other housemates, or rude to and aggressive with their fans, is not doing her any favours.
Having looked at this forum, I'm delighted to find so much support for 'my girlie'. Having looked at this forum, I'm also ashamed and embarassed. I can imagine that living in the UK Ais fans feel they're about to be lynched for actually LIKING the girl, and the forum offers a refuge for that. But I can also understand how the fans of other housemates could feel intimdated and unwelcome by a number of posts.
While Aisleyne herself would, undoubtedly, be wowed to know she has so much support and loyalty within that, I'm also quite certain that she'd be horrified by the aggression and intolerance behind some of the posts. That's NOT who or what she is.
Ais will not be merely being judged on the perception of others' viewing. She will also be being judged by the behaviour and attitude of her fans. So 'do the girl proud' - and start putting more of the reasons we are proud to like her for into the posts. Be a 'bit of Ais'...
Don't be angry or bitter - whatever anyone else says, Aisleyne isn't. She has her moments, but she saves them for the 'important' things, then moves on. Don't bi@tch. Again, yes, she's had her moments, as do we all, but spite doesn't course through her veins, and she doesn't hold grudges. Be all the things Ais aspires to: kindness, caring, generosity of heart, open-mindedness and tolerance, understanding and respectfulness.
Does she fall short of these? Of course. The girl is, after all, like the rest of us: only human. However, she takes her shortcomings to heart - because she is not superficial and really wants to be a 'better person'. That's commendable, and a wish shared by very few people.
Perhaps now 'my girlie' does have a chance of winning or, at least being in the final three. I, for one, would be delighted and would love to see her face (wide-eyed and open-mouthed, typical Ais expression). But whatever position she exits those doors through, I wish her a generosity of spirit from the crowd, and I wish her much happiness.
I also wish for her to know that she's got the NICEST fan base of them all. She deserves it. So, get to it - there's six days to start killing the opposition off with kindness, not verbal-
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:35:20 GMT
A grounding post that is far from sycophantic but, nevertheless, gives an insightful brief on Aisleyne but from an unusual perspective.
quote: Originally posted by Louisa_Maria - Posted 13-08-06 11:01
Hello People,
Just a brief message to express my support of Aisleyne (God! I never ever thought I would ever say this).
I never changed my mind so much about a BB contestant as I did about Aisleyne now. I am a casual BB viewer, I only watch the highlights shows from time to time and eviction nights almost always. I do not watch the sister shows and certainly never bother to get Live Feed. For me BB is a light summer entertainment gameshow, a caricature freak show (it is certainly the way it seems to be going).
I do not really buy the "psychological, closed space experiment" thing. I think it is a television ratings-grabbing programme like any other. However, I do acknowledge that no matter how desperate the wannabes that agree to go on BB are, they are still human beings and deserve fair portrayal. No HM deserves to be "hated", simply because they are in a very vulnerable, pressurised situation (even though they chose to be, but it's irrelevant). They are at the mercy of the media machine, which decides what to do with their weakenesses for what it perceives as "our amusement/entertainment".
This is why I think all HMs should be spared excessive hate/love, especially not based on how they are portrayed in the papers or BB Highlights show, sister shows or even live feed. After all, who can say for sure what happens in the Diary Room? Or during the sound-dips? For all we know, BB could be handing HMs their scripts in the Diary Room?
As a casual viewer, this series of BB has made me re-assess my stand-points about all HMs, especially after the latest twist, where we saw Nikki "being chosen to go back into the main house".
I disapprove strongly of this latest twist, even as a no-voter. I never vote, by principle. I still think it is horrendous of BB to do this and they certainly must not get away with it! I am completely oblivious to BB's bias towards Aisleyne because I do not watch enough to decide, but after the latest twist, I am inclined to believe they are biased against not only her, but probably a few other HMs. Probably biased against her the most.
Based on this, I do want Aisleyne to win now and hope she will. I do adore Glyn and would be elated to see him win, but the impact of him winning would not be the same as if Aisleyne won.
I also like Richard, he has a good head on his shoulders and although he blew it in the HND, I forgive him, because he was under immense pressure and he has a good heart I think.
Pete, well, I am confused about him. Based on his time in the house, he seems to be a nice enough person. But he does not deserve to win the show as a competition becuse he did nothing. And Nikki's come back just blew it for me. I do believe their romance is genuine (especially on Pete's side) but I am not sure how long it will last or if it will last at all outside BB. I still do wish them all the best of luck and hope they will find happiness. They have been through a lot of pain (Nikki's eating disorders and Pete's disability).
I just notices that I typed "brief message" at the beginning, lol. What a long rant! Longest I ranted on this forum!
So Aisleyne to win! Go faker! Fake, shake it, you're gonna make it!
*would also be happy for Glyn to win. And Dickie 3rd*
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:38:52 GMT
Jane72 posted this counter argument to this much pasted anti-ais post. The original post was been branded about the GF on many occasions as a "reasonable" argumant against Ais. Jane72's comments in are meant to be in bold (won't know whether they show til I post it).
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It is one thing for a contestant to think he / she can manipulate all their HMs, it is shameless ARROGANCE to think that he / she can manipulate the general public. Aisleyne falls into the latter. The woman is a complete and utter actress, painfully self aware to the point where everything she says and does is calculated beforehand and done solely for self serving purposes.
What exactly has made you form the opinion that Ais falls into the latter? How has she manipulated the general public? She has an air of confidence around her, some may see this as arrogance, but this is open to interpretation and certainly cannot be stated as fact. She is aware that she is on a game show, and obviously wants to project an acceptable persona, a human trait I think you will find, but to say she calculated everything she does before she does them is an assumption too far. Are you inside her head? Do you know this as fact? Has she even done anything inside the house that would suggest this? I have not seen any evidence of this at all, and If you have then please elaborate so that this can be substantiated, otherwise this is purely your own conjecture. Self serving purposes? I have seen nothing but her take other people feelings into account and comfort others. Her empathy for others shines through and when she feels she has wronged someone will feel bad about it for a long time. I don’t buy that she does this to manipulate the Hms or the public. Again there is no evidence and all her actions back this theory up. If she was cold calculating and self serving you would not see this so consistently throughout her time in the house.
It is clear that she has high moral intelligence but doesn’t genuinely agree with these morals herself, just uses them to look good for the cameras. I find it ironic that a woman who dated convicted r*pist Mike Tyson and has only just recently split up from her g*n toting jail bird ex would have such a stunned and appalled reaction towards someone (Grace) throwing a glass of water in another’s face. Let me make it clear here I am NOT in any way implying that Aisleyne is to blame or her boyfriends crimes, the point I’m making is that if she gets worked up over something as little as water chucking then she should probably stay away from convicted r*pists and g*n holders, no?
Do we know she dated Mike Tyson? She is a promo girl and I would imagine had had contact with many a celebrity. She cannot be held accountable for others actions, and why should she judge them on something that she really doesn’t have all the facts to. Same with her boyfriend, do we know the details of his ‘gun crimes’ No, we don’t, maybe it was something quite minor, maybe it wasn’t, but again why judge Ais on her ex boyfriends actions that really have no bearing on her time in the house. She may well have agonised over his actions, maybe even that’s the reason they are not together anymore. The point is we do not know and so we cannot comment.
What I think Aisleyne is trying to project to us viewers that she’s this genuine, caring, sympathetic strong woman who stands up for what she believes in. However, testing circumstances, in my eyes, have shown her to be a vain, envious, callous manipulator who favours power over friendship, prides herself on male attention and loves putting other woman’s noses out of joint for her own amusement and personal triumph. For instance, she showed no romantic interest any interest in Pete until she realised Lea and Nikki were romantically interested in him. Thus why Aisleyne automatically assumed Lea and Nikki had nominated her that week.
Why do you disregard the Aisleyne that she portrays to us on screen as the genuine, caring, sympathetic strong woman who stands up for what she believes in? What testing circumstances have shown her to be vain? She walks about without make up covered in sot cream. Yep a vain one that one, and so likes looking at herself in the morror, so do I, but it’s not in admiration at myself, it’s generally to think OMG, lol. Envious? Of who? Callous manipulator? Sorry I don’t see it. You seem to be projecting what you THINK she is doing into her actions. That is again your own supposition.
Ash took the boos she heard into account and is now trying to fix the self damage she’s done by making up with who she thinks is still the public’s favourite, Nikki. Cynical? When she fell out with Grace and Lisa she didn’t take any time out to build bridges with them but is so desperate to be friends with Nikki? Na ah girl, I ain’t buying it.
Yes I think she did re-evaluate her actions because of the boos, but I find that perfectly natural. For instance, I have been known to respond to some disagreements in my life to which I have behaved badly, however on hearing remarks made about my behaviour it made me think about how I came across and I changed my behaviour out of shame. How awfull is that?, well I would say that it would be more awfull NOT to change.
The first signs of Ash’s cold, calculating ways emerged in about her third week into the house. Ash was constantly stirring the pot with Richard, her main ally at the time, spouting bile about “man-teef” Imogen, at the peak of her sexual obsession with Mike. But being so very self aware and camera conscious Aisleyne covered up her tracks afterwards by following her criticisms with; “do you think I’m being two faced? “do you think I‘m bitching ?” knowing Richard would always answer ,"no , we‘re just observing”. At Ash’s plan’s best Richard’s reassurance would convince the public Ash is not bitching ( and they both come out smelling of roses ), at it’s worse Richard is ‘influencing’ poor innocent Ash and she‘s just a prawn in his evil plan. Each way; she doesn’t get the blame.
Are you Bitching now or merely observing? Maybe she said some things about people, maybe she was dragged into making her observations or bitching. But at least her bitching hs not been as harmful to anyone as past housemates have. If you compare Ais’s bitching to Grace, Lisa, Imogen or Nikki, I think you will find that Ais has been very, very mild.
Most of Aisleyne’s criticisms of her female HMs are often to do with the men these women ally themselves with, thus proving my point:
GRACE - "She's using Mikey for the cameras" Which she absolutely was, so Ais was just observing that, Grace admitted that she didn’t have any real feelings for Mikey.
NIKKI - "She's such attention seeker. She's using Pete to win. She plays up to the cameras. Did I tell you the story about how she came to sit on my lap ? It was all for the cameras." Which I think Nikki was and still is!! This is MY opinion, but my point here is that that was the way Ais saw it, and let’s face it not one HM’s has not said that about one or another.
MOGEN - "Imogen’s Man teef. She's so fake, man" Well she saw right through what Imogen has done then hasn’t she!
Man teef: a Jamaican term for a woman who "takes away" another woman's boyfriend. This politically incorrect statement itself indicates that Ash views other women as the enemy in the fight for men’s affections . Furthermore, after her slandering of Imogen, Ash declared she herself was not a "man teef", but 2 weeks later was heard boasting to her new HMs that she had snogged Mikey under the covers… nuff said.
Firstly I don’t see your point as this being politically incorrect! She is merely using terms used by another cultures, with which she has strong connections. Where has she ’slandered Imogen! Slander - publication of a false statement of fact, made with the requisite state of mind, that causes injury”. And Mikey had no say in this matter? I think Ais just showed him up to be exactl;y what he is!
Ash even confessed in the DR that she wishes she was in a house with just men, as women are “manipulative” just before picking Michael, Jenny and Jayne off - one gay man, the other two ; women. When it came down to Jonathan and Spiral, she evicted Jonathan ( for real this time ) because he had made it clear that he only had eyes for Jenny and Imogen , whereas Spiral hovered around her like a fly around sh*t. Then of course came that cringe-worthy I-feel-so-guilty crying session, which seemed to get louder every time the camera’s eyes fell on her, and just as it seemed the session was FINALLY over once she had entered the main house with Spiral, she saw her HMs charging to console her and inevitably started up again.
Well sometime I agree with her, women can be very, very hard to live with, especially when all you hear them do is bi@tch - Grace, Imogen, Nikki! I think I would prefer to be exclusively with men and sometimes not, but that is not a crime! Maybe she did go a little over the top with the crying, but I think she genuinely felt it. Maybe the pressure of the last week found an escape that day! As for starting again when others went to console her - How many times does that happen, you are just pulling yourself together and then someone asks “are you alright?” well most people would find that they go back to blubbering!!
My take on it is that she was only crying because she was worried about how she was being perceived by the public.
How do yo know?
In fact, Aisleyne is ALWAYS worrying about how she will be perceived by the public. When Grace heard the “GET GRACE OUT” chants from the crowd, she went into the bathroom and cried...then she went to the diary room and cried…then she went back to the bathroom and cried…and then she got over it. She stayed the whole week until her eviction knowing she would get booed, which she did. Anyone else would have walked but Grace handled the backlash extremely well and I respect her for that. So why is it that Ash, a 27 year old woman, who is constantly going on about "keeping it real" was having a nervous breakdown when she got booed for 15 seconds?
But those 15 seconds in THAT environment must have been enough, THEY don’t now what is waiting for them, they have seen past series and can only IMAGINE what is waiting for them. Those 15 seconds of booing is the only information they have of the outside world, so it probably means a lot.
Now that Nikki has gone, Ash’s downfall is sure to follow, as her mission to “get one over” on her is complete and she will begin to ignore Pete, just like she ignored Glyn, just like she ignored Mikey, and just like she is ignoring Spiral - well, more precisely; accusing him of sexual assault but that's a different matter.
Now she only said in the diary room that she “felt uncomfortable” with Spiral grabbing her when he was naked. The forum and gutter press have expanded this story.
We’re now watching a cockier Aisleyne bossing all the females about, prancing around her “yard” in clothes that I can only describe as “white trash” and spouting ghetto lingo that seems to come and go when it pleases, while naively thinking she is popular. Then teeny boppy girly girls will begin sending their Ash-is-a-manipulative-slag-who-uses-all-the-men-in-the-house texts messages to BBLB ( providing that they actually get through in spite of Endemol’s lackeys sending their own ) and I hope she’ll be evicted the moment she is up. I’m sorry, but I do.
This paragraph really doesn’t need to be comented upon. The ‘white trash’ comment says more about your opinions than anything I have stated above
Please take into account that this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to disagree but I’d appreciate if the replies (should there be any) are mature and argue my points well rather than just an attack on what I have said or anything else. Thank you.
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:40:15 GMT
Originally posted by Alisha K on 15 August: This is my opinion if you're confused I love Ash.
Unlike the others, she stands for what she believes in. I love how she confronted Grace over watergate, just like she said she would and stuck up for Susie when Glyn condoned Grace's behaviour. Love her or loath her, the girl has moral decency. She has a great sense of what's right and wrong and sticks up for those she cares about. She's is a loyal person and this is one has won over thousands of viewers and why, imo she has such a strong fan base.
She's had one bad week in that house, which I won’t be making any excuses for but the good does out-weight the bad. Apart from Pete, she has done the least bitching in that house. The harshest thing she's said about anyone was "bi@tch" and that was to Grace's face. Sure she's talked about people, but never insulting. Some of her comments have been negative but they are not vile. They’re more observation than anything.
The most she's said (interms of insults) were "boring" "bi@tch" and "manipulative" - all of which she said to peoples faces. Others however (behind her back) have called her, sl*g, b*tch, ho, sl*t, slapper, black wannabe, ugly, vulgur, disgusting, cow and so much more.
She really doesn't compare to the rest in terms of insults.
What I respect about Ash is her morals. For me, she represents anti-bullying. When she first came to BB, she called Sezer up on his bullying antics who said he'd "bully people out of here". She stood up to him and said she'd be no pushover. The Susie incident was her defining moment for me. No one else had the guts to stand up to her. Like me, I wouldn't have sat back and said nothing. Since then, she has been adamant about her beliefs, not changing them once (unlike Richard who likes to ship and change depending on who is popular). She is a girl of integrity and will call people up on their behaviour if she thinks they're being out of line but unlike some she doesn't get aggressive, raise her voice, become a bully to do so. She lets them get their side across and she does the same.
This is what's sustained her popularity imo and this is why I like her so much.
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:41:12 GMT
Originally posted by karmadrama on 15 August: A summery of Aisleynes life in the house – should you haters need reminding
Aisleyne entered the house looking stunning, the plastics were not amused – this is what happened in brief
PHASE ONE
1. Grace Nikki Imogen Mikey and Sezar (not sure about Lisa) Ignored her and were not welcoming. 2. Within seconds they had called her a Sl*g, Sl*ut, Filthy H*e and more 3. Within minuets Sezer had been sent to warn her off, he warned Ais that ‘they’ the plastics get rid of the rubbish (meaning Ais) or words to that effect 4. Aisleyne stuck up for herself thus causing more hatred within the plastics toward her. 5. The bitc*ing, insults and vile comments continue within the plastic camp where Aisleyne is slandered for the way she looks, dress’s, dances and looks in the mornings 6. This vile behaviour within this camp gathers momentum with Grace being the head bi*ch, Ais is called Wigger because of her cultural background thus insulting not just Ais but every ethnic group who has helped define who Aisleyne is – disgusting. 7. more and more ridicule and hatred are generated within this group – too much to mention.
During this first phase in the house Nikki had no time whatsoever for Pete, after sulking because she didn’t bag Mikey or Sezer(who she considered the best for her selfish cause) she tried her luck on George who had no interest in her whatsoever. Then she joined Lea in the pursuit of Pete. As we all know this was very disturbing viewing as both women descended into bunny boiler territory. Both women at this time noticed that Pete was getting on famously with Aisleyne – they shared lots of conversations and Pete looked very very happy in Aisleynes company.
PHASE TWO
1.Lea and Nikki joined forces to bring down Ais out of pure spite and jealousy. 2.Lea joined the plastics (who she had previously spurned) so the gang could assist her and Nikki in there twisted cause. 3.The whispering and bitc*ing gained pace within this group to the point where Aisleyne was starting to get emotionally effected by the rejection and hatred aimed at her. She had no idea that by merely ‘talking’ to Pete and being a good friend was causing this. I suspect Pete enjoying Aisleynes company was what made these 2 boilers so hateful toward Ais. 4.The plastics nominated Aisleyne and she was evicted (albeit to the HND) 5.It was during the week after Ais had been nominated that she put 2 and 2 together and realized that the people who she thought of as friends were bitc*ing and plotting behind her back. 6.Then came the famous yawn and the know yourself little girl comment and the row with Lea. Both boilers deserved that, it was to there face and nothing in the grand scheme of what Ais had been through at there hand.
PHASE THREE
The house next door blew Aisleynes socks off, she was amongst nice people (so she thought at the time) and basked in the fact that there was no bitc*ing or nastiness being hurled at her. Fantastic for Ais as in the Main house she had been picked on from day one. Aisleyne enters the main house after a week to a mixed reception. 1. Pete glowed with happiness, Nikki scowled with total twisted hatred 2. Nikki starts the Aisleyne scares and intimidates me campaign. Some of the vilest bit*ing takes place between Jayne and Nikki toward Aisleyne. 3. The Ais / Pete spin the bottle kiss takes place around this time and bring more trouble for Ais and Nikki vile behaviour ramps up to mega proportions 4. Nikki’s behaviour leads to her eviction
Ok things settle down in the house a bit – the plastics are all gone. Ais still has problems though with Spirol. On the outside BB and the spinnofs are whipping up hate with there extreme bias toward Aisleyne because there little princess is no longer in the house. The bias is so extreme it is laughable.
PHASE FOUR
BB fix it for Nikki to go back in the house – the biggest scam ever. Richard goes to the HND where they are all holed up. He becomes an honery plastic and laughs bit*hes and plots to cause more pain for Aisleyne. Richard returns with Nikki (of course)
1.Nikki throws insults toward Ais at every opportunity while thinking she is the star of the show 2.Richard aid’s Nikki and adds his own nastiness into the mix to bring Ais down. He also thinks Nikki is the star of the show and is so far up her ar*e that I can barely watch. 3.Aisleyne as always is kind, gracious, fair and supporting despite the fact that the biggest televised head job has been done on her
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:42:29 GMT
beajie's heartwalming post about the two main protagonists (dated 15 August):
I’m trying to write a balanced and, I hope, sensitive post about the two front-runners, and I hope I can manage to do that without offending anyone.
As soon as Pete came into the house, I knew him. How? Because I lived with a guy just like him, and wrote about our relationship. Since then I’ve gone on to do many years’ of research on the autistic spectrum and related conditions, and I’m lucky enough to have many close friends on the spectrum. I, too, have a neurological condition which isn’t on the spectrum but which gives me some personal insight into some of the huge difficulties my friends and my ex have to battle against.
So, right from the outset, I, like almost every other member of the audience was hooked on Pete – a grown man with the emotional development of a 3-year-old, but kind and gentle and loving, and very creative. Nothing I read about him subsequently upset me. Yes, of course he was into BDSM – he has no sexual boundaries. Yes, he did a lot of drugs, many people with ASCs and related conditions, see no wrong in that. I read about his friend’s death in the early weeks, and knew what an impact that must have had on him.
But, as the weeks have gone on, some of those lovely endearing qualities have started to grate, just a little, just as they did with my ex. Ultimately, although Pete, and my ex, can have some sympathy for others, and empathy, and can sometimes deal with confrontation, it’s not their strong point. They’re better at taking sympathy, than seeing a need to give it, sometimes. Well, if I’m honest, most of the time. Passive emotionality is OK, especially if it’s balanced by beautiful smiles, but sometimes you want to yell, ‘What about ME!!’
As the weeks have progressed I’ve watched someone with such intense empathy, giving so much support and kindness to those who hate her, that my attentions have shifted to her. Because I know that with her I’m seeing clearly, and that she’s acting clearly – shifting perspective, but always remaining true to her own vulnerability which helps her understand others, even if she doesn’t like them.
So the question for me, until the last weeks is do I vote for the person who is most like me (complex, annoying, emotional but basically human) or do I vote for the guy who reminds me of the man I loved and still loved, but who wore me out with some of his relentless, if innocent, egocentricity.
Today, I’m sure I’m right in choosing Ais. Pete’s a wonderful guy, and I love his insouciance, but is it magical thinking that makes him say, ‘If I don’t win BB then my vision is just all in my head, and there’s no heaven’? I don't like the sound of that. I wouldn't want that thought in my head. He's got to win, or God is dead? Oh dear.
And listen to Ais’s reply, when he says that :
"It's really nice but sometimes you need a bit of logic, you need a bit of black and white. I used to think a bit like that airy fairy and all that, 'if this means that then that means that', because my mum [brought me up that way] and then I met my dad and he was straight down the line and said 'no Aisleyne if that happens it does not mean that'."
"If it doesn't happen nothing [bad] is going to happen...Your mum's sorted out now, you've got your brother's life sorted out...you've got Nikki now, you've got too much good to focus on, way too much good to focus on...your mind's gonna be blown when you get out of here," she continued.
Pete asked: "You think so?" "Yes. And you're a winner even if you don't win this," the promos girl stated firmly.
Seeing that the 24-year-old was still having trouble coming to terms with it all, Aisleyne encouraged him to think about the Big Brother experience differently. "Pretend we're in the situation and there is no winner, imagine there was no money and it was a collective thing ...do you feel like a winner? Do you feel good? Do you feel complete? Take that away, I know it's difficult, but take winning out of the equation, pretend it don't exist," she advised.
Now that’s intelligent, empathic, and tear-jerkingly perfect.
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:43:15 GMT
a nice post from cuddlesthefox (dated 15 August)
It's funny how things work out isn't it? Everything that has happened in my life and every aspect of my personality points to me wanting Pete to win or at least relate to him. I have Tourettes since childhood, I am a recovering heroine addict (9 years clean!), I have had many personal problems too many like Pete's own. Yet despite all this, I would love to see Ash win. I want to see her face light up when Davina says her name. Most ofall I want to see the scared girl, shaking, hyperventlatig and sick with fear when she believed she was leaving, walk out the doors a winner. Maybe it's because she will be the true peoples winner. Whatever, I hope I see the smile if she does.
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:44:21 GMT
This is the third tear-jerker of a post on Tuesday, 15 August
This one's from baggiefaniness x
It's been a funny old series. Dawn was ejected early on for a seemingly innocuous crime when compared to what others (Jayne, Nikki and Glyn) have done since. George and Shabaz walked and one wonders why they bothered to enter the house into the first place and what pre-show vetting actually does go on; we are told that a lot of tests are done, so what does that say for the tests?
Several of the housemates have appeared to me to be either too near the edge of breakdown and depression. Others have been very aggressive. I don't think that by this stage, I need to point out to regular viewers who these people are.
But there are two people in particular, who have entered what is, to all intents and purposes, a reality TV gameshow and ended up going on a tremendous journey - one which will no doubt have a tremendous and positive impact on their lives. Glyn and Aisleyne. More about them later.
I get the impression that many forget the basic premise behind Big Brother. People apply to go on a reality TV show to win £100,000. End of story. Yes, many will say the money doesn't matter and they just want the experience, but deep down, I believe that everyone who enters the house and is able to tolerate that environment without walking, would prefer to actually leave the house as the outright winner rather than any alternative. To suggest therefore that someone expressing a desire to win is wrong and that they shouldn't dare think about it, is totally futile and falls down straight away.
Since several of the housemates are prepared to throw themselves into the public gaze for so long, accepting that skeletons locked away will undoubtedly be unearthed and aired for all who wish to seek these dark secrets out, is strangely admirable. But nonetheless, it is a further indication of what housemates are prepared to go through for that prize.
Several housemates have had previous modelling assignments unearthed. There can be no greater example of this than Grace for instance. To justify her action by accusing Susie of being a stripper, when she, along with Aisleyne, Nikki and Lea (especially Lea) have been involved in modelling assignments of one sort or another, just doesn't wash. Who cares anyway? I leave Imogen off the list as what has alledgedly been released was more down to the obvious jealousy of an ex-boyfriend trying to cash in rather than anything else. But Grace, thankfully, has been probably the only the housemate to leave the Big Brother house with no integrity whatsoever - and deservedly so. Her attacks on Aisleyne merely display the fact that she cannot compete with the popularity of a girl that entered the house as a 'Ghetto Princess' with an attitude, but will leave as grown woman with compassion. True - Aisleyne is not perfect. But who is? I will never make her out to be whiter than white but I will give credit where it is due.
I feel quite sorry for Pete. I don't think Nikki has done him any favours. He's a nice bloke and I doubt that those trying to discredit him will find as much truth in rumour and speculation than they would like. But I do feel that Pete - rather ironically - had an advantage from day one. He stood out. It was something different for Big Brother in a similar way Nadia in some respects. I think he deserves a lot of credit for what he has been through but I don't think he should win the show. He has been rather inconsistent. His friendships with the female housemates have been very sporadic. His treatment of Jenni has been poor since Nikki returned and I only hope that he doesn't live to regret declaring his love for this strange little girl on TV in front of millions. Personally, I think Pete is more suited to Jenni, but then what do I know, other than his popularity has waned tremendously in the last week.
Richard is an enigma. He fancies Pete and is a father figure to Nikki. He tolerates behaviour from them that he wouldn't entertain from anyone else. Imagine had it been Glyn and Mikey canoodling on the bed for near enough 24/7? This shows double-standards and there have been enough examples of this from Richard in the last couple of weeks to virtually remove him as a non-runner from now on. His backtracking and selective memory have been very disappointing.
Glyn has been tremendous entertainment. On day one I couldn't understand what this naive little boy was doing in the house. But boy, has he grown?! In the house anyway. I worry that when he leaves, his new found fame might find him in a few tight spots. Let's hope he follows Richard's advice and remembers his roots and small-town values. But for sheer viewers pardise and numerous discussion points, Glyn has been a star of the show. The paradox that started a loser and will leave a winner - whatever happens now. That's why he is my second choice.
My first choice and the person I would like to win is Aisleyne. She entered the house a far more attractive woman on the outside than the woman on the inside. Yet she will leave completely the opposite. I honestly believe we have seen Aisleyne - warts and all. We've seen the bad and we've seen more and more of the good. I've witnessed the gradual self-realisation of someone whose desire to win is overpowered by the fact that she really doesn't believe she will win. Does that make sense? Forget the fact she is excited about being in the final week - deep down she is terrified of leaving the house and yet the woman has no reason to be so scared. She has grown up. She thought she was big when she came into the house. All mouth, hair and lipstick. But she will leave a far bigger person. One who has cared and comforted. One who has confronted both fellow housemates and herself. And one who is a much better, bigger person for the whole experience. She had to vote out several people by herslef, only to meet them again later the same week. She's had to endure the taunts and sly comments from those who have been evicted and returned. She has witnessed those she felt were her friends, ally themselves to those who are her enemies.
And still she remains the person she has grown to become in the house - displaying integrity, openess and a spark missing from many left in the final week. Whatever she decides to do when she leaves the house remains to be seen. But she will leave with a new found strength that throughout all of the adversity, she has truly found herself and will no longer feel the need to hide behind false persona.
She has gone from being eye-candy for a good laugh on a night out to being someone who most blokes should feel proud to take home to meet the folks! She is a winner whatever happens but I truly hope she will win the prize and shown by the public, just how much we each appreciate what she has achieved in a relatively short time.
Aisleyne to win!
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:45:19 GMT
Originally posted by dogtired: BB Homepage News
Deep, Deep Down Pete and Aisleyne chat Tuesday 15 August Day 90, 11:05
Aisleyne and Pete have had the kind of philosophical chat normally reserved for late-night drinking sessions... at 10.30 in the morning.
Most of their 45-minute long discussion was too deep for us to get our heads around at this early hour, but it revolved around Aisleyne giving Pete a warning.
"Try not to expect to win, I don't want you to build your hopes up and get let down," she told him, sensing that the Brighton lad might be making a premature burst for glory. Story continues below
"Imagine there was no winner," she advised, going a bit John Lennon. "Imagine there was no money and it was a collective thing."
Pete, wearing a tight pink vest, told her about the metaphorical spiral in his head (not the rapping, Irish one) that he hoped would "click into place" and go "ker-ching".
Aisleyne understood, even if we didn't, saying: "You're a winner even if you don't win this, there will be all kinds of good s*** going on out there for you."
Pete seemed quite pleased about this and couldn't help but smile, as Aisleyne added: "We only use ten per cent of our brains so just imagine the capacity and powers we have for doing things."
They've been using that much?
DS News story
" Pete has revealed his deepest fears and feelings about the imminent end of his time in the Big Brother house to Aisleyne during a long conversation in the kitchen.
After relating a vision he had of himself travelling up and down a spiral between heaven and hell, the musician confessed that he was worried that if he doesn't win Big Brother it will be a bad omen for how other areas of his life will pan out.
Referring to Pete's creative, unconventional way of thinking, Aisleyne told him: "It's really nice but sometimes you need a bit of logic, you need a bit of black and white. I used to think a bit like that airy fairy and all that, 'if this means that then that means that', because my mum [brought me up that way] and then I met my dad and he was straight down the line and said 'no Aisleyne if that happens it does not mean that'."
"If it doesn't happen nothing [bad] is going to happen...Your mum's sorted out now, you've got your brother's life sorted out...you've got Nikki now, you've got too much good to focus on, way too much good to focus on...your mind's gonna be blown when you get out of here," she continued.
Pete asked: "You think so?" "Yes. And you're a winner even if you don't win this," the promos girl stated firmly.
Seeing that the 24-year-old was still having trouble coming to terms with it all, Aisleyne encouraged him to think about the Big Brother experience differently. "Pretend we're in the situation and there is no winner, imagine there was no money and it was a collective thing ...do you feel like a winner? Do you feel good? Do you feel complete? Take that away, I know it's difficult, but take winning out of the equation, pretend it don't exist," she advised.
"Yeah, you're right," Pete acknowledged. As he remained pensive, the 27-year-old changed tactics and focused on the positive things that would come out of being on Big Brother regardless of winning or not.
"Babes they're going to interview you and Nikki in all the magazines, on the TV on the chatshows, they're going to follow you round when you go shopping, they're going to pap you," she predicted.
Cracking a smile at last, Pete exclaimed: "Really?!" "Babes you don't realise how big you two are and how beautiful a story it is...so that's gonna keep you busy, then you've got your band, you're probably gonna be so busy you won't be able to do many gigs...Stop stressing, I know it's hard, focus on the positives, try and focus on the positives," Aisleyne emphasised.
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Post by remaha on Aug 24, 2006 13:47:10 GMT
Originally posted by whit on 17 August (but may have originated from the AOL Forum): A few weeks late she came on the Big Brother scene - Hi everybody! My name is Aisleyne! Noting her attitude and her sassy walk the Plastics all bitched and started to talk.
They picked her to pieces and wouldn't be her friend (bet they're all bitter that she's at the end!). Said she spoke 'Black speak' and called her a 'wigger' but whilst they sniped her fan base grew bigger.
Nominated to stand against the one who drank tea, She moaned and groaned (and had mega PMT!) Told Lea she was stifling Pete and told Nikki where to go and so they bitched yet again, calling her 'trash' and a ho'.
Set for eviction and shocked to the core, Aisleyne was placed in the House-Next-Door. What a hoot - but that was no fun she had to choose and leave behind one.
Her tears were deemed false by those who were looking and then we saw what Big Brother had cooking . . . a new housemate - who's such a pain - but Nikki can now bi@tch all night with Jayne!
No matter what Aisleyne does, it's not good enough - she damned if she's soft and damned if she's tough. People talk of her clothes, her looks and even her laugh, if some had the chance they'd tear her in half.
Yet through it all she's remained a good friend, words of support and a listening ear to lend. She questions herself and tries to grow stronger She's not popular? Not any longer!
She's bitched the least and been the most kind. Her heart's in the right place and it's this I find makes her stand out and the true BB winner and support for her HMs daily grows thinner
So come on all, give Aisleyne your vote - make Friday night really float her boat! Cheer on a good and honest contender - Aisleyne to stand there, in all her splendour
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