Great Posts about Aisleyne

[remaha]

Phewww, that's it for now. I'm sure there will be more to come.

[smoif]

You are a star Remaha. I love this thread

[robbie]

remaha said:

Phewww, that's it for now. I'm sure there will be more to come.

Thanks so much it's brilliant to read all these posts again.

[juliejuliejulie]

Its good to have all the information that was said about aisleyne from her fans - also it shows the rollercoaster of how she went through in the house and also the rollercoaster life she has had out of it - before bb and after bb.

[Cloud 9]

remaha said:

Phewww, that's it for now. I'm sure there will be more to come.

Thank Remaha for a lovely thread (I feel honoured that you've included me!)

It was a great read and you must have gone to a lot of trouble putting it all together.

Hope Ash pops in at some stage and reads it too:)

[adorabora]

Thanks remaha, another wondeful thread, youre a treasure for doing this. The rhyme with "Whit" above was indeed from an AOL poster.
I am in awe of the people who can put all these truths and thoughts of Aisleyne into written form, I thank them so much as they say it all and far better than I could ever hope to do.

[premierscfc]

remaha said:

Some people said this was the best post about Aisleyne ever. High praise indeed for jane72 who posted it on 18 August under the title "Emotional rollercaster".

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No, not Aisleyne’s, ours. Of all the housemates to ever have strolled through those doors, never have we had such an emotional attachment to one of them as we have done to her. Over time, we have witnessed a girl, with a slightly spikey air of arrogance, swoop into a hostile environment, sting the house bully with her sharp but accurate tongue, and challenge every viewers prejudices, with her complex mix of “ghetto, rude girl”, compassionate empathiser and an underestimated vulnerability .

Great we all thought, another promo girl, hyped up and made up to secure a place in reality TV history as eye candy for typical male BB viewer. Yet from that first not-so-stereotypical outburst to Sezer many have been fascinated by her. Would she deliver? Oh yes, and so much more. Not totally giving up her toughened exterior, but underneath it all we could see this raw, unpolished diamond, mature and grow. She beat off the bullies, stood tall, and suddenly the floodgates opened to a whole different set of fans. No longer fitting that young stereotype, but a full cross section of society ready to look behind that toughened exterior and seek out what made this girl tick.

Over time, we have been, surprised, saddened, laughed, cried and cringed at this blossoming girl took who had already started on her long journey inside the house. What she doesn’t realise, is that in starting that journey, she has taken so many of us along for the ride too. For all the twists and turns inside the house, there were many on the outside too. Housemates who were evicted for their vile behaviour towards her seemed to be ‘congratulated’ The sister shows of BB blatant bias toward certain housemates, the growing hatred toward her on these forums and audience members of the sister shows seemed to have been borne out of this bias, which by now wasn’t only for certain HMs but against Aisleyne herself. No-one could really understand where this hatred was coming from. Sure, not everyone was going to like her, but the most venomous of things were being said against her. Why? I sill do not understand.

We now weren’t just supporting one of the hms, we were fighting for her. Every action, every word, every look, blink, sigh and hair flick were being scrutinised. We were forced into defence mode. In doing this we actually began to scrutinise her ourselves, and I think it was at that point I realised just how human she was, flawed yes, but how would I have reacted in that same situation? Every time I had to defend her or argue over a silly hand gesture, or bad edit in a highlight show, I found I was writing from the heart. I actually cared what was being written about and for her. She now wasn’t just a contestant in a TV show. She was a human being who deserved more than all the hate. And as if to seal the emotional bond with her the heart wrenching story of her mothers abandonment emerges and we are hooked.

Fakers had now come into their own. And post after post of fantastic analysis and opinion swept the board. Some of these even swaying opinions of others who really had not looked in on Ais at that level before. They too now saw beyond her projected persona. And appreciated her complexity. The vile b**ching by Jayne and Nikki made hard viewing. And now we were becoming angry at BB’s reluctance to punish Jayne for her rule breaking. It almost seemed like Jayne was being “allowed” to influence the house against Ais for some reason. But the public spoke, and Nikki was evicted with 34% of the vote in an 11 horse race. Quite a significant result really, or so you would have thought.

Big Brother continued the bias, and now seemed to actively participate and condone this hatred. Now, we witnessed something else, BB’s more sinister side, the side that truly seemed to want to hurt her. The ex Hms lined up ready to “beat her up” “knock that ghetto princess’s crown off”. All cheered on by the host. This was going to be great TV, wasn’t it? To top it all BB wanted to put back Nikki. All a bit contrived really, seeing as she was one of the Hms who were shown positive bias, and she also voiced obvious malice toward Aisleyne.

Now we had to face fear. Yep, we actually feared for Aisleyne, in an edge of the seat show we watched from the behind the sofa, preying for Aisleyne to find the strength to keep it together, whatever BB was going to throw at her . Letters of complaint were being sent of to whom ever it may concern about this latest engineered “car crash TV”. The night of the re-entry and Fakers and fans alike felt sick at the thought of what may happen in there. One push too far from the rejected housemates and Aisleyne may well blow it. Yet who’s fault would it have been? I doubt endemol would have taken any blame, no, it would have been Aisleynes fault, and BB would have been vindicated in their bias portrayal of her.

Much to the relief of her fans, she didn’t bite. She actually wanted to see Nikki and Lea again, and why wouldn‘t she? .

Ais wasn’t up for eviction that week either, she also wouldn’t be sent in to the lions den with 4 HM’s who wanted her blood. Oops, BB you failed on that one, Didn’t quite go to plan did it? Oh, wait, It’s Graces birthday, and she’ll be 21. Now, Grace hates Ais, what shall we do? Thinks BB, Ah, she wants to “tell a few people what exactly what she thinks” I wonder who she could be talking about? And lo and behold, Grace gets to spend 21 mins in the main house. I wonder what Grace will do with her time? Blissfully unaware of the impending drama that is set up between the two girls, Ais watches grace walk in. The look on Ais’s face a picture, while at home, we all watch with a deep, pit of the stomach sickening nervousness. but Grace didn’t go to plan either did it? Ais respects Graced birthday, yet sticks determinedly to her principals that we saw emerging in earlier weeks and simply lets her feelings known “I hope you apologised to Suzie” she says. She doesn’t push it, but never crosses the line and we all sit back, relieved and so proud of our Aisleyne. She really hasn’t performed in any way less than dignified.

Further rule breaks inside the house next door. Richard and Imogen being fed biased information in a pathetic attempt to sway opinions of Ais, by all the ex Hms. One of them will go back, and how will they react to Ais then? Simple, Richard cant even look her in the eye, he has been poisoned against her and will now start a new champagne to belittle Ais. Just like he did with shahbaz.

Ais now appears beaten. She is now so alone in the house, with no-one to ally herself with, totaly ostracised from the group. While she sits sobbing in the garden because she didn’t fall at Pete’s feet and worship him, or she sits repeating self loathing words to herself in the belief that she really is a stupid pathetic failure who EVERYONE on the outside world detests. We watch through tear filled eyes. No, Aisleyne, you have been greatly wronged. While ALL the other Hms have had some indication that they are doing great on the outside, all you have heard is the boo’s. Yet you are the only worthy winner in so many peoples eyes. Even some of those so against you in the past now see your situation and feel deeply for you.

Through out all of this Ais has been accused of being “fake” These cries of "fake" fall on many a deaf ear because we just don't see it. She has been manipulated by both BB and the other housemates and just keeps on shinning. Any actress who provoked such an emotional reaction in their audience would have achieved something even the most talented of actresses still only dream of. Making the audience care about them that much is a real acheivment, yet many of you would have us believe Aisleyne is not for real.

Many fans do not even watch BB for it’s “entertainment” value anymore. We just continue to keep an eye out for our Ais. Aisleyne you have had the most profound affect on many people.

One more turn on the roller coaster to go. But this will be in great contrast to recent weeks. When you realise that the public really do like you, that you are actually more popular than Nikki, Richard and possibly even Pete. Your elation will be mirrored throughout the nation.

FAKER No 474 and so proud!

My favourite post out of all the forums I have been on. I have saved this as a word document and still get touched by it every time I read it.

[remaha]

All the posts in the thread "Posts we were proud of" deserve to be in here. However, rather than copy them all in, I have just included a link by way of citation.

Thanks to everyone who posted in there and keep them coming.

fakersforais.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread=1156841521

The good news is that at least we know the thread will never be deleted.

[Admin]

Just found this one by cloud 9. It is a good omentary on Paul Morley's remarks.

cloud 9


Posted 24-08-06 23:47 24-08-06 23:47

You're taking this from Paul Morleys commentary (which I suspect was his description of her behaviour inside the house as opposed to what she had done before it or how she will be in the future - as that is what the show is supposed to be about (their behaviour in the house). Not whether they were abused as children, what their friends had to say about them or whatever else, otherwise we should just forget about BB and watch an edited documentary of their lives so far and judge according to that.

I don't have much in common with Ais - doubt we'd even be mates never mind a role model but I do get where Paul Morley was coming from. From a previous post as I can't be bothered typing it all out again:

he was wrong to use the word feminist - I think a female icon might have been a more appropriate expression. We should remember though that he said things off the cuff and its easy enough for us to analyse things afterwards.

You could argue he was incorrect on a technicality, but I think I get the jist of what he was trying to say.

I think he was mentioning some of her qualities that he had recognised on the show and felt they were probably decent ones for young woman to aspire to (in context to the other women who were on BB).

I'd imagine he was referring to the fact she was confident to wear what she wanted without letting herself be either intimidated, disrespected or humiliated by a man.

She had a moral sense of right and wrong and had the strenghth of character to stand up for them when it wasn't the easy option to take - she did more than be nice and play lip service to what was right and wrong. She took a moral stand and risked the consequences by speaking out in defense of her friend (while others who although they knew it was wrong kept their eyes to the floor)

She had patience and understanding and was able to display immense self-control and understanding with people who she knew had been bitching and backstabbing. She did more than not rise to their bate (and bi@tch back), she did more than forgive them, she reached out her hand of friendship and went to them to try and help them talk things through.


She was strong and confident and not afraid to look sexy and entertain, but was grounded enough to know that looking good aren't the be all and end all and she was able to laugh at herself and show her natural, unglamouros side to the world.

She was vulnerable and not afraid to examine her emotions, try and rationalise them and salvage some inner strength that allowed her to survive through tough times. She was also able to identify her faults, reflect on when she was wrong and make amends for it (not only by apologising to the person concerned) but by learning from the experience and trying not to repeat it. Few people have the humility to even admit that they are in the wrong never mind do somehting about it.

As strong a character as she was, and as much as she liked attention, she was also capable of recognising other housemates needs, especially when they were in need of support. She was empathetic and was able to offer support, encouragement and very sound and practicle advise to housemates when they most needed it.

I could go on and on, but you get the gist. I find it very easy to understand where Paul Morley was coming from, even though he might have got the expression technically wrong.

Especially when you compare it to characteristics shown by other females in the house (selfishness, bitchyness, back-stabbing, two-facedness, hypocritical behaviour, neediness and lack of backbone, spitefulness, spoiltness etc)
OK, I'll try again.....but only if you promise to read the first paragraph in my last post again I even put it in italics - I wasn't talking about what she got up to before she entered the house - so that would include those photos

I'm not sure how you guys view BB and BB contestants. For me, it would be a very rare thing if any of them were ever worthy enough to be regarded as role models in their own right. Since they're in there more often than not to get themselves noticed, get fame and make themselves some money, trying to turn them into saintly super-heroes, role models and people to be idolised after they leave the house is just silly. If you want to find young role models you go out and find youth workers who spend their free time doing voluntary work for charity etc, not BB contestants.

I regard BB as a game-show and cynical as I am, I actually expect to see characters on it that have more about them to be disliked than the average person would have - and from what I've seen so far my expectation has been proved right! All I was saying about Ash is that in her time in the house she managed to show a lot of characteristics and behaviour that was admirable - certainly certain ones that I'd like to teach my child (and especially when you compare it to some of the behaviour, attitudes and antics from her fellow housemates). As such, I think she deserved to win BB - and my support for her surprised me as going on first appearances I wouldn't have expected her to have shown such admirable qualities.

I could be wrong, but I would guess that Paul Morley was referrinng to these qualities she showed while inside the house (the ones I mentioned in my first post) when he made his comment. That was it. He was wrong to call her a 'feminist' icon...but come on - all he was doing was trying to make a spontaneous, off the cuff attempt at a compliment (probably after a glass of wine or two!) I'm sure he wasn't intending it to be analysed so much and taken so literally.

Of course that doesn't mean he thinks all the stuff shes done before Big Brother is role model material. Nor does it mean that he believes she will be a role model in the future in the outside world. Who knows what she'll be like in real life. Its just his opinion on her behaviour in the house based on what he saw - and thats all the BB shows and commentaries are about (or at least I think should be about) - analysing their behaviour - good and bad - inside the house.

Anyone who tries to make them into saints/role models outside the house are just as mad as those who say they don't deserve to win BB because of what they did 3 years before entering the big brother imo. I think we should all stick to judging them on how they were on the show - and if we were impressed with them we say why and we could always let them know if we bumped into them in the future. But keep it restricted to BB and let them get on with their lives without trying to put them on a pedestal or the opposite - judging them on what they do from now on.

[CazPar]

Well I'm a little disappointed, as I think I made one or two good posts about Ash on the DS forums before my ban. I was banned for 14 days, and so went back in to retrieve my posts yesterday, but the ban had not been lifted. Further enquiries lead me to the discovery that the ban was permanent. No great sobs there from me (it's not as if I have a lot of time for forums at the moment), but it did cause me to reply to them that they could have told me that two weeks ago, and that as I had probably been banned for saying the mods there must either be corrupt or incompentant, the evidence is now pointing very much to the latter.

So there!